MPC has been around for a while now and it has only started making some headway just recently, but the waves are still too weak to be taken seriously. ZAPU on the other hand has been in marriage with ZANU PF for the past 20 years and they did not deliver development and respect for Mthwakazi. It has been stated here and elsewhere that ZAPU is in the process of revival, last saturday saw a big gathering at White City stadium which was supposed to be a turning point for ZAPU revival, but as expected the likes of Joseph Msika chickened out at the behest of CIOs and Robert Mugabe. The biggest question now is, would the revival ever become a reality? If it ever becomes a reality, what ideology would the new ZAPU advocate. ZAPU has always seen Zimbabwe as a Unitary state to the expense and demise of Mthwakazi nation. Will ZAPU still see things as they did yesterday? If so, would they ever learn anything from history?
Ideologically i am more of a secessionist and therefore my attraction to the MPC. The only problem i am having with the MPC is its lack of seriousness. To me it seems the MPC should be the future of Mthwakazi, but the problem is its leadership which seems to be too afraid to declare clearly and openly what uMthwakazi want. We were hoping that their long announced launch of a launch would be something to redefine the political landscape but it has come and passed, to me it was too little to late. Unless and until the MPC president step up to the plate noone will ever take the MPC seriously. If a leadership of a party does not take itself seriously noone should be expected to.

Madlenya ngiyakubingelela Mthwakazi omuhle ngokujabula okukhulu. phila mfowethu mina ngisaphila. kodwa mfowethu wena awuthathi izintambo kube nguwe othi usuyinkokheli yethu? lokhu ngikusho ngoba indlela okhuluma ngoya cha yinkokheli phela le. if use uk zama ukuhlangana nalendoda uGagu. yinsizwa ena kwenzeke leyo. umuntu okwazi ukwenza. ningazwana.

mina mfowethu ngithi ihlanganiso ethi sihlale kulobubugqhila bezimbabwe ngeyamaTshona. ngamaTshona wodwa angafuni sibenoMthwakazi ozimele wodwa. futhi kungathi kungaba nesikhwama la uMthwakazi wonke la ukhona akwazi ukufaka imali kuleyo account.sibenama funds. ongafuniyo akayeke akufoswa muntu. asiyenzi into yamaTshona yokubuthelela abantu ngefosi. kodwa kuyadingeka ukuthi abantu abafana nawe nihlangene nabo Gagu nivele nivule iaccount joint, lisinikeze iaccount nomber kuphela. kube ne way forward. abantu badiniwe. sesihlukunyezwe kwaze kwabangcono ukufa. worse still we have no hope.

Madlenya labo bonke bangakwethu
Mamela kancane wethu, singakatshayi i'versus' IMPC siyayazi njengoba lawe usitsho. Masikhuluma ngeZapu sitshoni? EkamMqabuko esiyaziyo itshabalele, sonke siyazi lokhu. Ma ekhona ofuna ukuyivuselela yinto enhle leyo, kodwa besingakezwa thina abanye. Let not people play on our people s vunerability and just say 'Zapu revival' Akusicala ukuyivuselela, but we would like to know who is doing that, on what principles is it being founded on, the ideology and even the constitution if it comes to it. Abantu bakithi basebunzimeni kakhulukazi so anything will do for them. So amadoda la engathi sethe ukuqumba okweminyaka yonke le etafuleni kamgangi urobathi, njalo sebethe batshelwa ngamanzi ngokufa komconomi welizwe sebezocathamela uMthwakazi. Kulamadoda abemele uMTHWAKAZI kusikhathi sonke lesi oMsika laboDabengwa bekhomba ngophakathi esozibeli.Kabanikezwe ithuba.
There was always going to be a large gathering e white city ngoba kuyatshisa ezweni. Sizwa kuthiwa amacio, polisa sotsha konke kuyadefecta. izinto azimanga kahle. So let us not allow people to play mind games bethi Zapu revival ngoba sebezinhlanzi ezitshelwe ngamanzi. Ma beqala into entsha akwazakale betsho bethi sebephumile kuzanu expressly and clearly. Izapu kaNkomo iphele nya basifulathela oMsika, so bengenzi uzathi they mean izapu we have always known ngoba leya yaphela labo Msika esasibathembile labo Dabengwa basiphika ebunzimeni. No. Izapu yabhubha ngokwenza kwamashona enaboMsika ngokwakhe.

Now umsebenzi awuphume ezandleni zabanye abafana siwubeke ezandleni zethu, makuyi Mpc ayenze okutshiwo ngabantu, loba kuyiphi party ayenze okutshiwo ngabantu. Let us stop being fought for by our leaders yikho bejika bebusa angani bangumlimu wethu. Impc ithe 'is' until such time as Mthwakazi is able to stand for herself, then they hand over. Question is , are you guys ready to take over this precious baby born out of so much suffering and pain, financed by a few peoples personal money and resources? Come out of your houses seek audience with NDABENHLE SHAMASE himself and let the real stuff happen on the ground. Impc ithe they are social democrats, this suggests to me they welcome other parties to fight alongside them for Mthwakazi s independence. So it is good ma izapu ivuka layo, but what is their ideology and constitution? If we are not careful oDabengwa or else will bring the likes of Makoni right to our doorstep. We can not afford to let them come riding on their contributions for the last war, we hereby wage a new war. We value their previous contributions, it must be noted down on history books, we are thankful, we respect them as elders in our community but also we are not ignorant of the fact that they have let us down during our weakest moment.

For now, what matters is who will fire at the enemy, not who fired in the last war. Ma besiza kabaze mgceke kamhlophe, we are ready to forgive, for we also have done wrong at some time concerning the liberation of Mthwakazi. Kakho omsulwa. But isigundegunde yiso esingela ndawo okwamanje.
So iMPC lezapu mazingatshayi iversus, let them fight alongside. Abanye ngamasocial democrats , others may be liberal democarts, conservatives for example.

Mthwe

Ngethemba uqinile lapho okhona.

Ngithanda ukutsho ngeqiniso ukuthi ngivumelana lawe kukho konke okutshoyo ngeZapu le MPC khepha kukhona ongacaci ngakho okuphakamiswe nguMadlenya ie i action iphi bhudi omkhulu ! Siyifuna esitikini iMPC ku political landscape yeKhaya. Isibindi sayo siphi ? I MPC sesizwile ukuthi ifanenswe ngabantu abalutshwani, yebo siyavuma but can they please enfranchise it to the rest of the Mthwakazians ngoba isizwe siyaphela njalo sithembele insindiso kuyo i MPC given the history kaZapu osuyichazile ngamanengi.

Ngiphinde ngitsho ngithi ;Nature abhors a vacuum, ngokunjalo ivoid ekhona koMthwakazi sifuna iMPC iyivale kuthi leyo Zapu ezayo in whatever shape and form yayo kuthiwe ngamaprodigal sons and daughters kaMthwakazi. Who said they may not be ideologically aligned to iMPC or they are enemies of iMPC because i MPC yona ayikazidekleyi koMthwakazi!Strategically I dont see iZapu or any other Mthwakazian party as a threat kuMPC. Ngamapathi afanelwe asondezwe aphefumulelwe i ideology le leadership entsha njenge ANC eyaqoqa o UDF labontonintoni ngoba they were fighting against a common sitha and the 'market' of abalandeli iyindawo eyodwa.

Umtwana ozalelwe ebatwini ukhuliswa zizandla zabantu bonke Mthwe khona kuchame indoda kwakhanula umfazi.

JJ
Thatha iphone noma ipen. Khuluma nayo iMpc kuhlanganwe. Usitshele ukuthi endaweni engaka su arrange imeeting for example eSA, ukuze sazi ukuthi kusele ngaphi UDuze laye to arrange la akhona, labanye labo la abakhona. Angithi sifuna ukutshela iMpc ukuthi thina sibona kanjani ngempi le. Layo ingathi isitshele enga ilakho kwazi bani. iMPC yibhasi, uJJ yi petrol. Futhi ngithe malisehluleka libuze Igagu ukuthi abantu bahlanganiswa njani, lafuthi konke lokhu kungehlula lingazise, Pho udubo yini maqhawe. Ngithemba asobugwala.

Kuyacaca ukuthi umfowethu uMthwentwe liqhawe leMPC,indlela avikela ngayo iqembu iyabukeka,kodwa okusalayo yikuthi indlela avikela ngayo iMPC ingathi ayinambitheki ngoba ibhekela abantu phansi njalo ivikela amagwala. If leaders can not assume leadership responsibilities they cease to be leaders and they should never be regarded as such. How on earth should the masses be expected to lead themselves? Over the years the diagnosis has been made that Mthwakazi needs leadership to galvanise and organise people, but today we are told that ordinary people should be leaders, not that they can not be, but the way we are told and expected to is ridiculous at best and folly at worst. Why should we continue defending the indefensible? We are told that the MPC President has announced his name, my question is, when did he do that? Where was he when he made the pronouncement? What is his name? Being told that he is Ndabenhle Shamase to me it is an insult. My name is Thabani Khumalo. Do you now believe that i am Thabani just because i have told you so on the internet? To say the truth the MPC president whoever he is, is an intelligent man, who can be of great credit to the struggle of Mthwakazi, but the truth has to be said, he is a coward of worst kind. He is unwittingly infecting the nation with his deadly disease of cowardice. He might have good intentions but his intentions are now detrimental to the progress of the struggle.

Ekuhle bafethu.
Kuyabongeka ukucaca imibono yenu ngalolu daba oluqakathekileyo kangaka kusizwe sakwethu samaNdebele.

Owami uthi lanxa ukuthandabuza kweMPC kusobala akubizi ingxabano phakathi kwalokhu abakuzamayo lalokhu okungabe iZapu nxa isivusiwe izabe ikumele.Kodwa ngokwesiko langokubona imbuso yabanye ngitsho laku Zanu pf (ngikhangela amandla awe Zanu yodwa lapha) angigagasi ngokuqakatheka kwomhlangano obunjwe ngabadala njalo waba lokusilwela silahlekelwa yizihlobo isitha sisesengabelungu bodwa saze saguquka saba yibuhwaba babetshabi kumanyano wethu labo kuZanu pf.Lokho kodwa kunika iZapu isithunzi esithize nxa isitshilo njengamanje ukuthi mhlaka 25 november kuzaba lokusungulwa kwayo kutsha ngemva kokwala kukaMsika (iNdebele lamanga) ukuthi abonisane lozulu eWhite City emalangeni adlulileyo.

Ngithi kazidonse zombili inkabi noma enye mele ifunde okunengi ngezepolitiki kwendala.Kulinywa insimunye njalo kuzovuna isizwe sinye.

Maluju Zikode

Maluju Mthondo weThusi, Wena owamithisa uQungu lwabhensa!

Iyake ilume izitshiyele Mlondo.

NguMthwakazi lo ubaba weMPC kasimqiniseni bo! Lapho alobuthakathaka khona simkhuthaze aqunge isibindi abhudlukele esitikini. Mina ngibona sengathi kwesatshwa i treason kukanti inkuthazo ekhona yikuthi history tells us that ama treason 'trialist' ayaphumelela ezidingweni zawo; bheka inkokheli eRhodesia,ezimbabwe leSA. Leyi yindlela eyahanjwa ngaboMandela. oTerror Lekota , oTswangie , etc. Inkalakatha yikuzimisela.

lami ngikhulekile ekhaya bafowethu linjani lonke lina bakaMthwakazi omuhle indaba le inzima madoda kodwa ke mina ngibona kungaba ngcono uma yena lobaba onguye ophetehe impc phela aziveze emohakathini ukuze thina esise nkundlemi sikwazi ukuhamba sitshumala ilzwi elilesisekelo ngoba manje nxa nginga phuma ngihamba ngifakaza nge mpc imibuzo engingahlangabezana layo miningi and i wont manage to answer some of the questions. yebo inkululeko yinto esiyifuna ngamehlo abomvu kodwa makucace yonke into ukuthi isuka kuphi njalo siyisusa nje sikhokhelwe ngubani uma yena lundoda elesibindi efuna ngempela ukubona isupport akaphumele egcekeni okwamadolo embuzi sizo mxhasa. Okwezapu ukuthi its being revived masinga rojwa sikhangele mthwakazi omuhle ngumuntu nje ofuna ukudla ngegama lezapu lowo ngeke sibe sizibuyisela emuva vele yena engubani othi ufuna ukuvuselela izapu kanti?
njalo mina ngilethemba lokuthi ubaba lo we mpc laye uyawa funda amapostings alapha enkundleni akasenzele izinto zibe lulu aziveze thina sifike ngokumesekela. NGIYABONGA MTHWAKAZI UNGATHI SINGAYIBONA NGALIHLO LINYE LENTO.

Why bother ask the what question ?

Shouldnt we be directing the what question to MPC and start implementing impendulo. Do we have time in our hands and resources to ponder on that ,really!Should that Zapu ask the what question ngoba ifuna a homeyokubhaca khona kwa MPC kambe ungakwazi ukuphendula ngokugcweleyo MG

Mfowethu Madlenya
[code]quote=Madlenya]Kuyacaca ukuthi umfowethu uMthwentwe liqhawe leMPC,indlela avikela ngayo iqembu iyabukeka,kodwa okusalayo yikuthi indlela avikela ngayo iMPC ingathi ayinambitheki ngoba ibhekela abantu phansi njalo ivikela amagwala.[/quote]

Utshona njani mntakababa. Sibambane imlomo kanci. Angisiqhawe leMpc ngitsho lakancane. Mina ma ngiliqhawe at all, ngiliqhawe lakwaMthwakazi. May I take this opportunity to tell everybody, let no one be under any illusions, I will serve Mthwakazi only.

[[code]quote=Madlenya]We are told that the MPC President has announced his name, my question is, when did he do that? Where was he when he made the pronouncement? What is his name? Being told that he is Ndabenhle Shamase to me it is an insult. My name is Thabani Khumalo. Do you now believe that i am Thabani just because i have told you so on the internet?.[/quote]

I dont claim to know the Mpc leader any more than anyone else on this forum. Fact is I have believed what he has said and I support him fully. I have joined the party. As I said before, it is now time to meet, we have passed the stage of waging our war on the web. I can not trust a man I have never met, with my life, with Mthwakazi and our independence. While I understood and fully supported the era of anonimity, it is now over. Before we can entrust our lives with any man are we not going to check out the man, the party? Even the party says they all are serving on interim basis only, until such time as Mthwakazi is ready to take over. So is Mthwakazi saying just lead us , without checking out the credentials of the party and of the individuals? It has been good interacting and waging our struggle on the web but in the name of progress we are at the stage where we must meet mathupha.

Yini kababa kulokhu ongathi ngikhangelela abantu phansi? Kambe qotho ubona njalo wena? I believe most of our people have been abit reserved nge mpc ngoba bethi isebulenjini kuphela. Kunjalo nje akumelanga yini sihlangane simbone lo ozibiza nkokheli? Babuze ababuzayo. Wena unje awulakho ongafuna ukukubuza kuliparty nalo ndoda? Mina noma ngayijoyina, I fully understood that stage, manje I also fully understand ukuthi things are now real. Therefore I must be realistic sibonane labafowethu engadobhana labo ebulenjini kukhulunywe hayikhona kancane. If I discover this thing just a joke I will say so and I m not wasting my time joking. Angesabi ndoda ngiyobatshele nje hatshi ebulenjini, flat on their faces. But I hope its proper work and also I will support them thoroughly. Akucaci ukuthi ngingowe mpc I delared that khona la enkundleni. Kodwa ma ungibona la enkundleni ngizenzela okwami ngoba ngingukhanda limtshela okwakhe. Njalo Inkundla ayisiyo MPC, SO NGIBHEKE NJENGE FORUMITE. Yikho engimikhona la, hatshi konke okubalayo mntakababa, angivikeli nothing ngoba I dont own anything, I am actually putting this man on the spot and the party, which I felt a bit unfair but fro teh good of Mthwakazi I had to do it.
This man announced his name here kuinkundla kulaunch statement ye MPC, angisakhumbuli yaphanyekwa ngubani, I m sure inengi sayibona lestatement.
Ukuthi bangamagwala asazi kuwe mfo, but mina ubugwala obusungula umsebenzi omkhulu kangaka ngivumelana labo. PHAMBILI NGALOBU BUGWALA.

Bafethu kasikhulumeni iqiniso. A leader has got to lead from the front and not from the shadows while asking his troops to lead from the front. Anything else other than leading from the front is shortchanging those who are living the dream of an independent state of Mthwakazi. The campaign has been sluggish due to the shadowy leadership factor.

we can never compare the MPC(Mthwakazi Pathetic Cowards) and the about-to-be-revived ZAPU!!we cannot even compare it to zapu2000, liberty party or super ZAPU!!
it has proved beyond doubt that it operates in a univese which has been engulfed by a massive blackhole of ultra secrecy and daydreaming, though they do not know it.
those of us still on earth, can easily tell that the mpc is spiraling into oblivion at the speed of darkness

Now this is out of order

madlenya umbiko wakho uvele yimuphi? uthi kulabakhangelela abanye phansi? kambe unga lawe uzibalela kibona abakhangelelwe phansi na? nxa kunjalo ngithi hlukana lalababantu abakukhangelela phansi ngoba awubadingi wena empilweni yakho. ngitsho ngani ngoba wena uvele nje uzibhekela phansi wedwa kangako ngoba nanku ulindele ukudonswa ngamakhala kuphela. uthi wena inkonkheli yempisi ithelela isizwe ubugwala. mina nawe asidingi kuthelelwa lobo bugwala ngoba siyilaba ababizwa ngesilungu bethiwa yellow kumbe chicken (yona layo leyochicken ingebotshelwe ngemva kwesivalo emkulwini ibheke umgqomo wamanzi ubila eziko isizwa ikhosikazi lilola umhedla ngemva kwesiphala). nxa impisi ingelankokheli kubangelwa zingqavungqekethe ezinjengami lawe so esitshona sitsheda ekhulusini ngendunu kulokuthi sisikume sibalwe njengemaqhawe. impisi itshilo ukuba isisungule njalo abaqondisi bayo okwamanje bonke babambe izintambo (interim) besalindele umthwakazi ukuba azikhethele abalungele lezontambo. mina lawe singaba yibo labo baphathintambo singasukuma phezu kwendunu sitshiyane lokuchobana intwala njengendwangu sizimbandakanye lalababantu. amagwala yimi nawe mbiko ngoba siphethe ngokupepetsha singajoyini sitshengisele lobu bungcitshi bethu esiziqakisa ngabo. mina lawe asiphumele egcekeni siyedinga ushamase hatshi ukutshona sicashile lapha enkundleni yobulembu.
ungakang'xoshi akungitshele ukuthi umuntu omuthi wena u ordinaty ngonjani njalo omuthi uyi leader ngozelwe njani.
kulabo baqondisi bempisi ngithi ayihlome maqhawe lingadangaliswa zinkulumo zamakhosikazi atshona ecacada amazambane ngaphansi komthunzi wesiphala amadoda esempini.

sengizihambela mina sibungu sodaka ngisaya dinga oshamase ngikhulume ngisenza ngisole ngisazi ukuba ngisolani ngisolwe ngisazi abangisolayo labangisolela khona ngibone abanye ubugwala ngoba sengilamanxeba empi lesikofula sehawu ehlombe.

ngxi! khonapho

hawu wempumelelo waze wakhuluma njengempume yangemva yini ngawe
ungang'xoshi sengidlepha phansi
ngxi! khonapho

Xoshiwe kunjani mfowethu. phila nsizwa yamadoda mina ngisaphila. uyazi yini ngifuna ukukuthethisa. khandalakho. wenziwa yini ukukhuluma amaganyana athe phecelezi angananhlonipho wena uzwakala ukhaliphe kangaka? yee? yini le oyisho kuMadlenya? kube uyazi ukuthi inkulumo yakho iqhakatheke kanjani kube awuziyangisi ngenkulumo ebheke eceleni khanda lakho.

futhi kungathi ukhula lokho ebengikucabanga qho. ngaphandle kwenhlamba. uqinisile kakhulu ma uthi ma singagxeki iMPC kube thina asenzi lutho. senzani thina. abafo beMPC ngamadoda angempela ngoba sekukhona abakuzamileyo. bakhe iMPC. thina okumele sikwenze yikujoyina leliqembu ngoba injongo zalo ngeyethu. kunokugxeka sime leeeeeee asijoyineni sibuze sesijoyinile. what if abalandeli bayo leMPC bayamazi umholi wabo ngamehlo. what if uziveza kubalandeli bakhe kuphela? thina sohlala pe pe pe asimazi. what if kuyisistrategy abavumelana ngaso nabalandeli bakhe ukuthi engalingi eziveze for reasons only known to members only. likuphi iphutha lapho?

inkulumo yakho inhle kakhulu ngaphandle kwenhlamba. labo abafuna ukwazi ngeMPC abayijoyine. if bangahambisani nestrategy sayo just quit.

mina ngabanebhadi ukungafundi lokhu. babengimemile ngempela lababanikazi beMPC befuna iemail adress yami.manje dwee anginayo. ziyangenzela ingane kuhambe kuhambe khohlwiyani.

kodwa lababantu beMPC mabengagxekwa imizamo yabo mihle kahulu kithi Mthwakazi

Abantu bakaMthwakazi baya bhidhliza kabayakhi sibili. IMPC yiparty yethu bakaMthwakazi ilwelwa amalungelo ethu bakaMthwakazi kodwa uzathola abanye bebhidhliza befuna ukubulala lapha okulethemba khona. Kusasa uzavuka usungela themba uzakwenzani.
Mina ngokwami sengibeke phansi izandla. Bafowethu maybe lingangi cacela iMPC yehluleka ngaphi? Ukuphumele kwakheli kwabo phambili kulani lamapolicies eMPC? Does MPC need to target amaTshona to gain ipopularity on the ground?

Ngiyethemba ndoda mfino awuyona ingxenye yaleli bandla, uma uyingxenye uzomane uyithelele umshopi ngoba kusobala ukuthi ufuna ukuyenzela phansi. Awakhi, awuyona indoda ekwazi ngezohwebo kunye nezokuheha. Zihlalelele mntakababa endlini ngoba awufanelwe wulutho. Lapho oyobamba khona kuyabhidlika. Ungumabhidliza na, kungabe nguwe uGagasiTsunami na?




Igama lakho likukhomba kucace ukuthi wuwena umuntu ongazethembi okubizwa ngesilungu nge lack of self esteem, noma kubuye kubizwe ngokuthiwa une inferiority complex. Angazi ukhuliswe njani kodwa kuyacaca ukuthi indlela okhuliswe ngayo ayizange ikunikeze amathuba amahle okwakhela ubuntu nokwendlalela impilo eqhakazile ngokwenhlonipho nokwezethemba. Uyazigcona, uyazigxeka, uyazigwenxa njalo ubuye uzixoshe, uyindoda enjani wena? Uyindodamfino ngempela. Uyimpisi kwawena hhayi ibandla esithembele kulo.



Ufiphele emicabangweni mnumzane, kunini lapho abantu noma ngithi uquqaba olwake lwazihola khona. Abaholi abangakwazi ukuhola abafanele ukubizwa abaholi, bafanele ukubizwa abadukisi noma abalandeli kuphela. Mina mfokababa angixoshanisi umoya, angiphephulwa ngumoyana njalo,ngifuna isiphepho noma isikhukhula esinamandla. Yazi indlela ocabanga ngayo ayibanzi njalo ayijulile neze kuhle kwengane, ukuthathaphi ukuthi angiyona ingxenye yomzabalazo wakwaMthwakazi? Kuwena kumele njijoyine iMPC ukuze ngifaneleke ukubizwa ngesigagayi somzabalazo wakwaMthwakazi? Ucabanga in absolute and concrete terms akin to a very dull person.



Kungani uShamasendini lowo engasidingi, simdingaphi thina? Kulula kuyena ukuthi asidinge kunokuthi thina kube yithina esimdingayo. Yikuthuka abantu lokho, wakwe wakubona kuliphi ilizwe ukuthi abalandeli yibo abamobiliza abaholi. Yeyeni mameshane, ipolitiki yoShamasendini leyo, izolishiya esigangeni ligaxele embaxeni zezihlahla.


Anginaso isikhathi sokumosha sokuxosha abantu abangazethembi, abantu abazixoshayo. Thola ukwezethemba izinto zakho zizokulungela.Uma labo baqondisi (company directors) bengadikibaliswa zinkulumo ezibakhayo, ezibakhuthaza ukusebenza kanzima bephumele eshashalazini then bayabe bengayazi into abayingenele kupolitiki,abaphume baphele.

[/quote] sengizihambela mina sibungu sodaka ngisaya dinga oshamase ngikhulume ngisenza ngisole ngisazi ukuba ngisolani ngisolwe ngisazi abangisolayo labangisolela khona ngibone abanye ubugwala ngoba sengilamanxeba empi lesikofula sehawu ehlombe.

ngxi! khonapho[quote]
Uyaqhubeka njalo uyazixosha, kungabe kukhona okushaya amanzi ngawe na mnumzane? Uzenzela phansi uzibiza isibungu sodaka, hhayi madoda kukhona okungalungile ngalensizwa.

Yebo mfo
Sikhulume iqiniso,fine. A leader has to lead from the front,true. Did the leader in question ask the people to lead him, untrue. Campaign sluggish due to leadership, unknown until we speak to the man or the party.

[qoute=duze] what if abalandeli bayo bayamazi umholi ngamehlo?what if uziveza kubalandeli bakhe?[/quote].

is he a GUTA gOD clone?you are suggesting they have a similar modus operandi, of secrecy and only revealing themselves to their believers/supporters. if HAMAS leadership is known despite ISRAELI assisinations, WHY is the MPC leadership resident in a "blackhole"?


don't you think what is out of order is their secrecy?how do you suggest we speak to them when they are stuck in a blackhole?


why tolerate a building being built in pitch black darkness by blind people on a sand foundation?don't you think we should destroy it before it falls upon us!!!

mthwente phumela egcekeni usitshele ukuthi nguwe ummeli weMPC!!

Uyalahleka. Nxa abalandeli bevela phambili umongamelei engaveli phambili kushoni lokho?

The man should speak to the people as a leader of the party hashi abantu bayomdinga lapho acashe khona ukuze bakhulume laye.

Dubelamadube phila mfo mina ngisaphila. empeleni ipoint yenu nina enithi inkokheli yeMPC ayiziveze ikuphi. angithi kube nithi nifuna iconstitution yeMPC or i ideology kube kuyazwakala. manje nifuna isithombe salomlisa why? i somehow get the point yenu. kodwa ningakhohlwa ukuthi mhlawumpe iMPC inesizatho.

personally i think we should join the MPC first or shut up. how can you expect to infuence the strategy ungasilomember? if it is their strategy so be it. their ideology sonke sihambisana nayo. the strategy , no. even if it was me i would only listen to my comrades members not every jake and jill up the hill to collect water. what if those jack are cio? so bafowethu yize ninephuzu kulokho enikushoyo kodwa kodwa, lest think deeper .

The way esiqhuba ngayo la eNkundleni kusobala nje ukuthi siyabaswela abaholi boqobo koMthwakazi.Leyo leadership bankruptcy kufanele siyisothe first umasizimisele ngempela ukuqamula la makentani engqilazo.Kasifundi ngani kwezinye izizwe ukuthi nothing is impossible unless you believe that.

Ichamile insizwa yaseKhenya, namhlanje umchamo wayo useWhite House.Not only is he black and African u Obama ,he is young. Asifumaneni i inspiration kwabanye abaqhuba kahle engxenye lathi sizoba lezibindi zokunqoba what seems to be an impossibility .

Jah Dingane
Utshone njani mfo. thanx ukungilamlela ngingakalahleki ngafika kudelakude. Kancane kancane ke mnakwethu ngize ngibone langilahleka khona. Kuhle ukuncedana, ngiyabona lawe ukewalahleka before watholuncedo kubafowenu.



Angazi kushoni ma abalandeli bevela phambili komkhokheli, both in general terms and even in this particular instance. Angila information ngalabantu ngifisa kakhulu ukuhlangana labo. ANGILA CLUE WHY KUNGENZEKA NJENGOBA UBUZA.

I know they work according to their programme and scheduling. For now I m patient enough to wait for their plans and planning, but to be honest with you Im not comfortable waiting.
Also I understand if some of us have lost their patience, but I dont understand why then they wont seek this man or this party s audience. A little while ago when the man had something to say he issued a statement. HE COULD NOT HAVE ISSUED A STATEMENT IF HE DID NOT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

Angitsho ukuthi abantu bayemdinga lundoda, hatshi. What I mean is if anyone has anything to ask or say to this man let them let him know. Not at my time or anyone s timing but at the timing of the one who wants to do that particular thing. Laye lundoda noma liparty ilesomething to say to the people let it be the man or the party that decides that. Sizafosela njani ukuthu umuntu asi addrese yena engatshonga ukuthi umumethe something for us. Noma engabalakho akumumetheyo kazukukuletha ngeasikhathi sakhe na, noma ngesikhathi sesimcelile ukuthi asiadrese. Okwakhathesi angikholwa lokuthi uyazi lumlisa ukuthi sifuna asiadrese, iyangena na kunkundla lensizwa? Lakho ingahamba itshompoka ngekubale lapha lalaphaya iyabe iyinsizwa bani leyo?

Ngiqondise mkhula.

Dubelamadube
1.Mina ngiyimember ye mpc angisomeli wayo.
2. What I think is out of order is what I identified as such, ngumcabango wami lowo akula kuphikisana ngawo. MPC stands for Mthwakazi people s convention.
SALAKUHLE

JJ
Waze wangihlekisa kababa. Ichamile insizwa, kutshoni lokhu?
Phela sinanzelele qhawe kaqalanga izolo lundoda lendaba yokungena ewhite house. THERE WAS AN ELONGATED AND SUSTAINED GROUNDING WORK. ALL WE SAW WAS JUST THE RESULT OF THAT HARD WORK
Bingelela ngekhaya JJ

Duze, ngabe unjani nsizwa yakithi.Mina ngiqinaqinile. Lapha ungathi ucishe wangikhanyisela.Ungikhumbuza engiku funde ngaphezulu nanku:
kusho u Mthwe.

Bengisebunyameni kodwa imibono yenu sengathi iletha inhlansinyana, manje isinqumo sami yikuthi ngijoyine liphathi lami ngikwazi ukuthola igunya lokuqondisa lobubukhokheli ubungagculisi moya womlandeli onjengami.Kimina kunengi engingakubonisa lababakhokheli ngendlela engikhangelele ukukhokhelwa ngayo. Joyina phela nsizwa yakithi ude ungilayele indlela lami ngenze njalo

Kuchame(sperm) uyise ka Obama , insizwa emnyama yaseKhenya, ilizwe elihluphekileyo e Africa, inhlanyelo yayo lamhlanje yiyo eseWhite House. Who would have dreamt that to be a possibility e America of all the countries? Kodwa kwenzakele ngoba ubelesibindi wazimisela u Obama.
Is nt that an inspiration to us abakwaMthwakazi with the odds that we are facing. How about to any black man under the sun?

we all know that Mthwe and that doesnt stop us from drawing inspiration.



we all know that, but still can we be inspired by him and people like him!



Yebo siyakwazi konke lokho bhudi omkhulu, but can we all apply that to our struggle so that we reap the fruits that everyone will see, abanye labo bafunde njalo kithi njengoba lathi sizimisele ukufunda okuhle kwabanye abalwe impi ka Obama.

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Exactly, the nail on the head. JJ Mthwakazi omuhle tell me how does it work, LAUNCH PARTY TODAY, TOMORROW ENGAGE IN BATTLE, ON THE THIRD DAY ENTER WHITE HOUSE?

The inspiration I get from my brother 'across the pond' is working hard and preparing well before one can see the appropriate results.

Kutsho wena Mthwe . No one ever said that. Not even our MPC !

JJ
Uxolo baba kutsho ukuthi angizwisisanga. Ungangichasisela ukuthi what inspiration you get yourself, othi masiyitholeni sonke. Ngiyaphuza ukuzwisisa kababa,kodwa ngicina sengizwile. Isineke mkhula wami.

Ag shame Mthwe!

Usizi olungaka

Kusobala lokho okutshoyo njengoba uzitsholo wena msalufu ngamagama akho.

Njalo kuhle kakhulu Mthwakazi ma uzazi ngobuthakathaka bakho.

Isililo Segwala
Isililo somkhokheli

Umkhulu lomsebenti
wehlula amadoda
kodwa phela okwehlula amadzodza kuyabikwa.
ngizowubika kubani mina
ngikhathele, ngethuleni umthwalo.
ngizamile kodwa ngehlulekile.
angizenzi ngenziwa yibugwala.
xolani bakaMthwakazi,lami ngiyakuthanda ukuphila.
lifuna ukufelwa ngumntakabani?
liyazenzisa, lingibiza ngegwala?
Liyahlanya, hambanikhatshana.
yenzani okwenu lithsiyane lami.
owami umsebenzi ngiwenzile.
sengifike lapho engikhathala khona.
angiselawo amandla okuwuthwla lomsebenzi.
liyayangisa Mthwakazi,bengithi lizangisiza kodwa lazihlalela
Lagoqa izandla zenu lamanina enu, emizini yenu,
kodwa lithi angiphume ukuze ngibulawe,
lami ngilemuli,njalo ngiyakuthanda ukuphila.
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JJ mfowethu ngisaphila wena unjani. ngempela mfowethu asiyijoyineni iMPC. then sitsho lokhu esifuna kwenziwe. empeleni mfowethu thina bakwaMthwakazi singabantu abaxazulula indaba ngokuthula nangokubonisana.singakulahli lokhu ngoba kusenza sibeyisizwe esihlukileyo kwezinye izizwe. ukuphikisana siyophikisana ngoba esintwini sethu sinesisho esithi akwaze kwayiwa nxanye kungemanzi. kudaliwe lokho. yikhonje simangala uma sibona amaTshona ebuthelela abantu ngenkani ukuthi ababeyinto ethile. kunciphisa umqondo lokho. kwaMthwakazi asikwenzi lokho.

mfowethu sonke sihlukuhyeziwe. uMthwakazi wonke uhlukunyeziwe. ungamangali uma uzwa abanye bethu bethi kanti lenkokheli kungani ingazivezi. benziwa zinhliziyo ezibuhlungu. futhi bane point. kodwa as long as singaphandle angeke sazi izizatho zeMPC. injongo yayo siyayithanda sonke singuMthwakazi, nee? indlela ehamba ngayo asiyithandi kwamina nami angiyithandi. kodwa bangcono kakhulu kunami ngoba bona sekukhona abakwenzileyo. kufanele ngenzekanjani manje? mangijoyine leMPC beseke ngiyabuza ukuthi kahleni webabhemi kanti la kunjani uma kunje? if angitholi ngcazelo egculisayo yilaphoke esengingabagxeka khona.

but just singing from the roof tops. cha. uyamuzwa manje uMthakathi udlala ngolimi ushaya inkonzo yakhe. futhi imnandi.

futhi zinsizwa zakithi zisekhona izinsizwa kwelakithi. sizalwa ngamaqhawe thina. noma bangazama ukusilulaza bethi sokwasala omame bodwa kodwa ngisasho sikhona singamadelakufa. futhi sohlala sikhona. inkokheli siyayidinga kakhulu. sizoyithola futhi.

kodwa cha bafethu lenkondlo kaMthakathi ungathi yilaba abasafufusa. slalakahle JJ ungamtsheli uMthakathi.

Uyalahleka futhi.A Leader should be a servant of the people and not the other way round. This means that he/she should reach out to the people and not people to reach out to find him lapho angaziwa ukuthi ungaphi kumbe ungubani. Kunjalo people are not always going to use secretive means to let their supposed leader know what they think of him. This is called the freedom of speech. Any attempts made to suppress this kind of freedom of speech is tantamount to dictatorship of the Mugabe style.

Duze

Awube ngo phileleyo kwelakho.

Ngiyawabonga amazwi akho , ayangiqinisa sihlobo. I MPC sizophephela kuyo noma kanjani. Mhlazana ngizojoyina , ngiphathe ikhadi ngizo hlabelela ingoma yami ethi:

Siyophuma nini Magidelandlini, yiya wolele X3.

Indlamu engizoyitshaya lapho ngentokozo ! Thula wena , uzakhuza umhlola. Uzavuma nomakanjani ,uze utshaye izikeyi zakho.


Ngalesosikhathi ngiyabe sengigunyazwe yikubalilungu le MPC njalo sengikwazi ukuletha inkhuthazo yokuthi umsebenzi omnengi usebantwini bonke.

Utsho kahle nsizwa yakithi Duze. Lets not loose our values amahle including bravery which we inherited esizweni sakithi. Yini esibonisana ngayo ngamazwi ale negativity engaka:




Lapha ke ngiphelelwe ngamathe:


Whatever happened to MODEST ? Siyakuswela yini ukukhunjuzwa lokho njengabalandeli ,aphi ama values oBUNTU avele eyinsika kaMthwakazi kakade.How about the basic principles of DIPLOMACY!

u precious baby lo ma eyikuthi ubongwa ngoMthwakazi ngithi she is bearing my tribes name ngoba lami nginguye. Ngilangazelela ukumphatha ,ngimkhulise uNomagugu Mthwakazi lo but ma kuyikuthi ngu Pureshasi hayi, anginayo inxaxheba engingayithatha kuboPuree. Kulisiko, layizolo ma intombi isithi ithwele umthwalo wako Mthwakazi bekusenzakala ukuthi kuthiwe sizobona ngomtwana. Kwakungayisikho kuphika igazi. Zikhona izizatho. Engavela ke avezwe. Hence the demand yokuthi i MPC kayize ebantwini iziveze
ngokugcweleyo bayihlolisise so that they can choose to buy in. I vele izoyakuphi ngoba ngeyakoMthwakazi?

Ngiyabonga Duze ngokungiqinisa, lami ngigcizelele ukuthi masingalahli uBUNTU bethu ngoba they are good values that defines us and probably defferentiates us from others.

We Qedabantu

Ngabe unjani mkhula wami.Amafu ethwele kangaka thina sethukile , asazi ukuthi u Mthakathi weZigodo uzosikhokhela ini. Kodwa ke mina njengomnumzane ngilawo umxhotshazulu egumeni lami, ungaqali imithanithani yakho ,inkosazana yakho ngeke ithi bayi bayi kwelami, isecurity i there. Ma ungaqinanga engxenye ngingayiphindisela back to you. Ngizothini mhlobowami ,indoda iyazivikela.Njalo umthakathi wakini ngeke umlahle, ithemba yikuthi khona ungiloya uwuzukungiqedelela uzoba lwezwelo lonyembeza othi 'ngumfowethu lo'.

Inkondlo yakho inhle kakhulu. Ungamnaki uDuze, uyamazi nje ngoba udume ngokusukelana. Nansi ingoma engiyithandayo:

Ayanqikaza, ayesab' amagwala

Athi kungcono ,sibuyele 'muva.

Eish , ngingakaze ngikhohlwe Mkhunkuli, lisiqoqela nini elinye idili kesibuse njengase Pimlico?

sakubona JJ. we JJ wenzani manje ulimukisa uMthakathi? ayi wena. wena. ingani bengithe ungamtsheli uHodoba. ufuna lomuntu angiloye? ungcono wena ngoba uyasho ukuthi uma indoda ingaqinanga uvele uphindisele emuva. phoke mina ngiyongenaphi uma lensizwa isithukuthele? cha kodwa inkondlo yona beyimnandi.

on a serious note mfowethu ngiyabonga ukuthi uqinise indaba yokugcina uBuntu bethu singuMthwakazi. lokhu masikugcizeleleni nakwezinye izizwe zazi ukuthi thina bakwaMthwakazi singabantu abangenamona, abangayikhulumi inhlamba,abantu abathanda okuhle. yikhonje sisithi asifuni ukuhlala namaTshona ngoba wona asiwazwiswisi. kukumanje kuleleyazwe kunjani? 30 years ubusa all tou can show is graves and izintandane nabafelokazi but usafuna ukubusa. ngingafunga ngempilo yami ukuthi esiNdebeleni lokhu angeke kwenzakale.pho bona banjani?

empeleni leyandoda uJazielindizayo wayene point enkulu kabi sometime ma wayethi lecabal eyizanu even emaTshoneni ayenzanga fokol. inkinga yakhe loya mfo wayenenqhondo yesiTshoneni. angakhulumi iqinisa if limenza abukeke kabi.afake nenhlamba. kodwa locabal zanu ungathi wavela wafaka inzondo emaTshoneni kodwa akabenzelanga lutho. bahlupheka more than thina. ikholera ikuphi manje ? deep in down town Salisbury. capital city???igazi labafowethu liyakhala. bayoze baxolise bahlawule.

kwelikamjoji kukuphi wena mfene? uthi wena awuthatheki uxoshana nomoya, udingani kwelikamjoji? yini ekuxoshe kwelikamkhenkethe ngoba angibonnanga siphepho khona ngaphandle kukabobejaan zwi. nxa ususwe nguye hayi kabi uligwala eliphindene kanenginengi yikhona nje uzogcwala esigungwini usola abazama ukuzikhulula.




awuzizwa ukuthi uthini. uzwakala njengesihlama esithi singatshiywa singatshetshelwanga siyanuka size some. tatuluka ndoda kumbe ungumfazi uzabalaze lamanye amaqhawe hatshi ukuzibona jusi ngokusola. joyina lawe sikusole.

Hawu mameshane kuqhubekile lokhu, bengithi inkukhu isinqunywe umlomo, kepha neze noma kunjalo,isisho sabadala siyasho sithi akusilima sandlebende kwaso, yikho nje noma isilima sizixosha, sizilulaza, sihlambaza, sizembula impahla emphakathini, thina esikhuliswe ngesintu sizosiqoqa, sisakhe, sisikhombe indlela eqondile, enobuntu nenhlonipho.
KwaNgixoshiwe, ngoba nginuka phela kumane ukuphambana komqondo kuyidide indoda endala. Indoda ngebhulugwe. Wendoda mfino, konakalaphi, uyawuhlaba uwulawule umkhosi uthini wena uxoshiwe kukanti wuwena mazixosha, uzizwe ukunuka, ave kumamngaza ukuthi Ndodamfinondini ave uwathanda amakaka, lokhu kungachaza ukuthi ukhuliswe ngawo noma uphila ngawo. Noma kunjalo asingeke sikulahlele isiganga sikuxoshe, sizokubonisa indlela ubuthengisi buphele lana kuwe. Buya ekhaya Ndodamfino, khuzeka, isalakubona sibona ngomopho.

AAAH Jahelibanzi
1.Isitimela sogesi sivela eharare sasingapheleli eDabuka na?
2.Ubukhona isikhathi inepotism itshisa bhe koBulawayo, baze batsho bethi inepotism is not allowed ezweni, angithi it was after iNdebele likhale isiyoweyowe.
3.Iharare airport how does it compare to Byo airport
4.Amanzi aqale nini ukuhlupha kwa Byo?
Usakhumbula ilocation lesurvival yeindustry idependa ngetransport lamanzi among other things. Yiphi ifirm ekade izakumela lokhu ko Byo?
5.Abantu abaqale ukuye goli asimaNdebele ngoba bekutshisa kwelemaNdebeleni ilizwe lisahlezi ngama standards wepost independence zim.
5. SCHOLARSHIPS
6.Where was the money generated by Byo City Council re-invested?
7.Apprenticeships
8 Hillside teachers
9.Mpilo school of nursing
10.JOB market
Just to remind you! Amatshona aqale manje ukudubeka ngokubheda komconomy as a whole. Awubezwa bethi izwe liwe ngabo year 2000. Thina besiqhoba umphafa kudala uTisha Nzuza ecula ethi ngomnyaka 2000 kobe kunjani na? Sisabona angani lowonyaka ukhatshana kakhulu. UMajayivana ethi ngabe basakhela amafactory ngabe siyabuyela siyegcina abadala ko ntuthuziyathunqa. Wake waba seharare etshayela ujob kadengu. Wathi semenzele imali waxotshwa.

Mthwentwe xola nkunzi. kusho ukuthi inkulumo isuke yangezwakali. xola mfo ngoba konke lokho okubalisayo ngiyakwazi. kunzima ukuphika iqiniso mfo. wona amaTshona ake ahlala kahle ngempela ngesikhathi kusesekuhle. kungasi khonomi kube basahleli kahle lanamhlanje. uqinisile mfowethu bengingaqondile ukusho lokho okuzwileyo.phela mina esalisbury angikwazi. emaTshonaland nje ngizwa ngelabathi. so bengicabanga ukuthi 30 years yonke betapa by now bahleli kahle. kodwa kungathi kunzima nakubo mfo. xola mfo.

lezizinja zifanelwe yikuhlupheka lathi kudala sithwele nzima ngenxa yazo lokhu okwenzeka kubo kubafanele and its worse nanso le cholera iyancedisa eceleni. isizwe sikaMthwakazi saphela ngenxa yalezizinja abake bakubone labo.

BULAWAYO – Former leaders of the opposition PF ZAPU party say they have pulled out of President Robert Mugabe’s ruling ZANU PF party, dealing a body blow to the once formidable party that is in decline after losing elections last March.

The former leaders said on Thursday they would be holding a convention next month to choose an interim leadership to steer the revival of PF ZAPU and convene a congress by March next year.

In a statement they said all political structures of PF ZAPU incorporated into ZANU PF at the signing of a unity accord with Mugabe’s party in 1987 will in the meantime “cease to operate under the title ZANU PF and resume the title of ZAPU and that all structures operate under the authority of the Constitution of ZAPU”.

The statement added: “The district councils should meet to prepare for and convene a consultative conference consisting of the 10 provinces by December 2008, for the purpose of electing an interim executive charged with the responsibility to mobilise and restructure the party and convene the party’s congress by March 2009.”

According to sources, Dumiso Dabengwa, a former senior member of ZANU PF and Mugabe’s Cabinet is leading the revival of PF ZAPU and is strongly tipped to be chosen leader by the party congress.

Other former senior PF ZAPU members pushing for the revival of the party include Welshman Mabhena (former ZAPU secretary general), former war veterans’ leader Andrew Ndlovu, former government minister Thenjiwe Lesabe, Effort Nkomo and Tryphine Nhliziyo.

Nkomo and Nhliziyo are presently spokesman and secretary for administration for ZANU PF for Bulawayo province respectively.

ZANU PF later said it had expelled Makoni, who contested the March 29 presidential election as an independent but lost. He is working to form his own political party.

But it would be the pulling out of PF ZAPU or some of its former leaders that could shake ZANU PF to the foundations. Mugabe’s party has always used its 1987 Unity Accord with PF ZAPU to justify its claim that it enjoys the support of Zimbabweans across the country.

Top ZANU PF official and government Information Minister Sikhanyiso Ndlovu, who is also a former ZAPU member, was quick to deny the party had withdrawn from ZANU PF and insisted the Unity Accord was still holding firmly.

He said: "Some claim they have pulled out of the Unity Accord but Vice President Joseph Msika, John Nkomo (all former ZAPU) and myself are still part of the agreement so where is the pull-out when all the senior PF ZAPU leaders are still in ZANU PF."

But a former army colonel Ray Ncube, who is coordinating the revival of PF ZAPU, told ZimOnline: "The party has been revived and I can confirm that there is a management committee that is organising a convention that will lead to the holding of a congress where a leadership will be elected before the end of the year."
- Zimonline

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Thursday, 13 November 2008 21:06


THE Zanu PF politburo on Wednesday tasked national chairman John Nkomo to meet disgruntled former PF Zapu leaders today in Bulawayo to find ways of addressing their concerns.
Sources in Zanu PF said the politburo made the decision after the ex-PF Zapu leaders at the weekend declared the unity accord with Zanu PF dead and vowed to revive the late Joshua Nkomo-led party next month.
Nkomo, the sources said, was tasked by the politburo to “find a way to stop the break away”.
The ex-PF Zapu leaders met last Saturday in Bulawayo and agreed to separate from Zanu PF which they accused of marginalising Matabeleland provinces.
The breakaway group said it would hold a two-day convention starting December 21, the day Zanu PF’s annual conference kicks off in Bindura.
The Saturday meeting was attended by former Home Affairs minister Dumiso Dabengwa, Zanu PF politburo member Thenjiwe Lesabe, war veterans’ leader Andrew Ndlovu, Zanu PF secretary for administration for Bulawayo Province Tryphine Nhliziyo, and provincial information and publicity secretary Effort Nkomo, among others.
“A meeting convened on 8 November 2008 at Stanley Square, Bulawayo, resolved that the political structures of Zapu cease to operate under the title Zanu PF and to resume the title Zapu and that all party structures operate under the authority of the constitution of Zapu,” read a statement issued by the disgruntled members.
“The district councils should meet to prepare for and convene a consultative conference consisting of the 10 provinces by December 2008 for the purpose of electing an interim executive charged with the responsibility to mobilise and restructure the party and convene the party’s congress by March 2009, in terms of Article 6 of the Constitution of Zapu.”
The PF-Zapu members said they were being sidelined in the day-to-day running of the country, especially in the inter-party talks between Zanu PF and the two MDC formations aimed at power-sharing.
Speaking at the meeting, Ray Ncube, the chairman of the Zipra Veterans Association, said it was time they divorce themselves from the “marriage of convenience” with Zanu PF and revive PF-Zapu.
“The marriage of convenience is no more, this unity (1987 Unity Accord) is not working so we have to separate ourselves from it and create our own Zapu structures,” said Ncube, a retired army colonel.
The meeting agreed to organise a convention from December 21-22 and ordered former PF-Zapu members to boycott the Zanu PF conference to send a clear message to the ruling party that the marriage was over.
At the convention, the members said they would re-launch Zapu and build new structures. An interim body to lead the party will be elected at the same venue of the convention.
The meeting had initially proposed to hold a congress in December, but Dabengwa objected and advised that they instead organise a convention.
“Let’s call it a convention or a conference to re-launch the party, not a congress.



It is not possible to organise a congress in such a short time,” Dabengwa said.
Sources who spoke to the Independent at the meeting said Dabengwa was tipped to lead the party.
“There is general disgruntlement with people like Sikhanyiso Ndlovu and Vice-President Joseph Msika who represent no-one from the region,” a former PF Zapu member said. “Former cadres are not benefiting from this arrangement (unity with Zanu PF) and original Zanu PF members in Matabeleland like Obert Mpofu and Cain Mathema are the only ones who are benefiting. Dabengwa is the only leader who can lead a PF Zapu revival.”
The breakaway group is expected to formally announce their “divorce” from Zanu PF at a press conference to be called early next week.
Members who attended the meeting also expressed their frustrations with Msika over his failure to attend a meeting at White City Stadium a fortnight ago.
Addressing the gathering, Amos Ndabambi, one of the most senior surviving PF Zapu members, said they were losing patience with the former Zapu leadership, especially Msika, whom he said has totally forgotten where he came from.
“He (Msika) told us that he is ill. He was not ill or showing any signs that he is not well. He told me that he was not happy with our agenda and the motive behind the meeting,” Ndabambi said. “It’s a shame the father has disowned his own children and acting in such a manner. We are not happy to be led by such kind of leadership, Msika has forgotten who brought him to where he is now.”
Nkomo, the Zanu PF Bulawayo provincial spokesperson, confirmed that efforts are at an advanced stage for the party’s re-launch later this month, but played down Msika’s recent remarks that they were planning to destroy Zanu PF.
“I can proudly confirm that we have gone separate ways and we are not doing this to destroy or to harm anyone. We want PF-Zapu to be fully recognised,” Nkomo said. “Why should we want to destroy Zanu PF? We just want to revive our party. We are tired of being called by the uncle’s name.”

By Loughty Dube/Henry Mhara

zanu-dam-finally-dried-up!

sibohlilemanyosi

PF ZAPU pulls out of ZANU PF
http://www.zimonline.co.za

by Nqobizitha Khumalo Friday 14 November 2008

BULAWAYO - Former leaders of the opposition PF ZAPU party say they have
pulled out of President Robert Mugabe's ruling ZANU PF party, dealing a body
blow to the once formidable party that is in decline after losing elections
last March.

The former leaders said on Thursday they would be holding a convention next
month to choose an interim leadership to steer the revival of PF ZAPU and
convene a congress by March next year.

In a statement they said all political structures of PF ZAPU incorporated
into ZANU PF at the signing of a unity accord with Mugabe's party in 1987
will in the meantime "cease to operate under the title ZANU PF and resume
the title of ZAPU and that all structures operate under the authority of the
Constitution of ZAPU".

The statement added: "The district councils should meet to prepare for and
convene a consultative conference consisting of the 10 provinces by December
2008, for the purpose of electing an interim executive charged with the
responsibility to mobilise and restructure the party and convene the party's
congress by March 2009."

According to sources, Dumiso Dabengwa, a former senior member of ZANU PF and
Mugabe's Cabinet is leading the revival of PF ZAPU and is strongly tipped to
be chosen leader by the party congress.

Other former senior PF ZAPU members pushing for the revival of the party
include Welshman Mabhena (former ZAPU secretary general), former war
veterans' leader Andrew Ndlovu, former government minister Thenjiwe Lesabe,
Effort Nkomo and Tryphine Nhliziyo.

Nkomo and Nhliziyo are presently spokesman and secretary for administration
for ZANU PF for Bulawayo province respectively.

The breaking away of PF ZAPU or even that of a significant number of its
former leaders - coming about 10 months after former finance minister Simba
Makoni also pulled out of ZANU PF - appears to suggest things could be
slowly falling apart for Mugabe's party after years of internal fighting
over the veteran leader's succession.

Makoni, a respected businessman and former diplomat, rebelled against Mugabe
to challenge the 84-year-old leader in last March's presidential election.

ZANU PF later said it had expelled Makoni, who contested the March 29
presidential election as an independent but lost. He is working to form his
own political party.

But it would be the pulling out of PF ZAPU or some of its former leaders
that could shake ZANU PF to the foundations. Mugabe's party has always used
its 1987 Unity Accord with PF ZAPU to justify its claim that it enjoys the
support of Zimbabweans across the country.

PF ZAPU and its late leader Joshua Nkomo drew most of their support from the
southern Matabeleland and Midlands provinces while Mugabe and ZANU PF are
strong in the northern parts of the country.

Top ZANU PF official and government Information Minister Sikhanyiso Ndlovu,
who is also a former ZAPU member, was quick to deny the party had withdrawn
from ZANU PF and insisted the Unity Accord was still holding firmly.

He said: "Some claim they have pulled out of the Unity Accord but Vice
President Joseph Msika, John Nkomo (all former ZAPU) and myself are still
part of the agreement so where is the pull-out when all the senior PF ZAPU
leaders are still in ZANU PF."

But a former army colonel Ray Ncube, who is coordinating the revival of PF
ZAPU, told ZimOnline: "The party has been revived and I can confirm that
there is a management committee that is organising a convention that will
lead to the holding of a congress where a leadership will be elected before
the end of the year."

PF ZAPU and ZANU PF fought a bitter 1970s guerrilla war to free Zimbabwe
from colonial rule. The two allies formed a government of national unity at
independence in 1980 but soon fell out when then Prime Minister Mugabe
accused PF ZAPU leader Joshua Nkomo and his party of plotting an armed
insurrection against him.

More than 20 000 innocent civilians from the Ndebele ethnic minority that
mostly supported PF ZAPU are believed to have been killed in the early 1980s
during a bloody counter-insurgency drive by the army ordered by Mugabe in
Matabeleland and Midlands provinces.

The killings by the army's North Korean trained 5th Brigade only stopped
with the signing of the Unity Accord when Nkomo agreed to merge his party
into ZANU PF while he took up the post of vice-president in government.

ZANU PF has ruled Zimbabwe since taking power at the country's independence
from Britain 28 years ago.

For me, ZAPU is the answer hands down. It will really strike a nerve with these amatshona creeps who keep throwing cheap jabs about the decline and failure of Zapu.
Well, in the end, they are all going to eat their words in mouthfulls.
I would prefer to challenge them head-on as a minority individual, just as Obama challenged the White dominated American Political scene, and showed them whose boss in their own backyard.

Inspirational commenting Mbali! Do I sense a new Obama being born?

So what you're saying is, we should challenge this flawd system as Zimbabweans, not as Mthwakazians?
I think I'm grasping your point Nqobile, it is logical and certainly deep! Maybe you should be our Obama!

UMnu uObama never advocated for the independence of Chicago from the rest of the USA, but targeted the horses mouth and today, he has overcome and is above all 51 STATES, including Kenya of course! I suppose we can draw inspiration from it as ambitious people of wider inclusion!

It's not a question of a revived Zapu versus Mthwakazi Peoples Convention (MPC)but rather one of Zapu AND MPC.

Both parties/movements should exist as seperate entities ngoba they have different philosophies from each other. Don't ever believe ukuthi the drivers of a revived Zapu believe or have bought into the Mthwakazi, as opposed to Zimbabwe agenda. Zapu ilabanikazi, in the literal sense so owning it as a "povo" is impossible, you just follow what the "owners" dictate. Now, is that the way forward?

There's an opportunity to freshen and modernise(bring omama, abancane, abadala etc together) our struggle with a proper Mthwakazi agenda, one which will be owned and driven by you, me and all of us.

Kunjalo-nje, ibambeni lingay'yeki. Zabalaza!

Reason and logic dictate that if iZapu ilabanikazi then so too for iMpisi. IMpisi has its owners.Let us be very clear the owners of iMpisi are not the "povo" We have been told here in no uncertain terms that iMpisi does the bidding of its members and only its members. The suffering and silent majority in Matebeleland has, in all probability never heard of this Mpisi. Therefore they are not members of iMpisi and for that reason they cannot dictate what iMpisi does.
Mpisi just like Zapu or any other organisation with a top-down philosophy has a cabal (for the lack of a better word) that drives its agenda. More often than not that agenda is self-serving i.e the interests of the cabal overide any other matters more often than not. Of course the rhetoric that they will spout and postures adopted will all be to give the impression that they have the interests of the ordinary sons and daughters of the soil at heart. That they too feel your pain. The reality is that you could not be further from the truth!!
Thus the re-emergence of Zapu and the, what can best be described as the still-birth of the iMpisi have absolutely nothing to do with the sons and daughters of Mthwakazi. At least Zapu has gone through what is at best a charade of having something resembling a consultation of the long suffering masses. It, I am made to understand, has intentions of some convention in December and a conference or congress in the month of March of next year. And all these things they have done in Mthwakazi with, as far as I can tell, little or no fan fare. In so far as I know Zapu did not make an announcement to announce that an announcement to announce the "launch" of Zapu will be made. They were no threats or promises (take your pick) of events straddling the globe (sic)to accompany this "launch". There was no website upon which nameless and faceless persons clambered on moral high horses and proceeded to mete out judgements and edicts and pronouncements on the events on Mgodoyiland. Zapu has simply launched itself where it matters most - on the ground and right in the lions's den. Whatever the reservations about Zapu (and there are plenty), for these simples acts of acting and being amadoda Zapu must be patted on its back.In that respect Zapu stands heads, shoulders, arms, legs, hands and feet way above iMpisi.

Which of course is a lot more than we can say about iMpisi who in September delayed the "launch" in South Africa because of "the difficult transition" there. Unless I am mistaken, to date there has been no "launch" in South Africa despite the calming of the seas. Needless to say, there has been no launch in Mthwakazi for it would appear that the "leaders" of Mpisi have no stomach or cojones to raise their ugly heads above the parapet where it matters most. They are quite content to make the ridiculous claims of changing the face of Zimbabwean politics nd challenging the evil system in Harare from the relative safety, comfort and protection of the might mountains of New York or wherever it is that they are holed up. The truth of the matter is that Mpisi is simply taking people for fools and for a ride on a freedom train stuck in neutral - going no where fast. The reality and the truth of the matter is that after the so called launch and the flurry of activities thereafter iMpisi has gone to ground. After announcing a couple of banal and meaningless platitudes it quickly emerged that their strategy (and i use the word very loosely here!)for bringing about independence is as useful as a chocolate teapot. Velvet divorce? Negotiations? coupled with no real presence on the ground all point the lack of joined up thinking and the favouring of half-baked ideas over sound and well thought out strategies. Accusations of this being a fly by night organisation for whom this so called struggle is no more than a hobby to be fitted in between things that really matter begin to ring true.

Ake lingincedeni bantu ngifuna ukwazi ukuthi iMPC ngignayijoyina njani sibanengi lapha esifuna ukwazi ukuthi singenza njani to make UMR possible .

Fika kahle nsizwa wamkelekile qhawe.
Ngena kuprivate message board yakho ubone indlela engahamba ngayo mina. Drop down menu kuheader "MyStuff" Then click on messages.

Mhlobowami, akungisize nami, ngifuna ukujoyina ! ngithumele nami le information

I will call Zwangendaba for you Bongani. He will direct you to the right people to contact wherever you are. I am a full fledged member and i am glad i joined. I have talked to some of the MPC leaders here in the U.S and they answered all my questions.

The ZAPU PF machinery is grinding everything on its way, including the minor and unknown parties like MFP and MPC. The Leaders of the minor parties are known to have already jumped their respective ships and joined ZAPU PF. Is this a positive or negative in Mthwakazi politics? I posit that at this point in time this is an excellent move, the leaders of MPC and MFP have to be commended for theirselflessness, for their interests and priorities, they got them absolutely spot on this time around. This means from this very day on, Mthwakazi will have one vision, one voice, common struggle, common enemy and shared destiny.

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No Going Back On PF Zapu: Revivalists PDF Print E-mail
Saturday, 06 December 2008 19:11

PF Zapu revivalists have rejected offers for an amnesty, dealing a huge blow to Zanu PF’s last minute attempts to heal a widening rift ahead of this week’s annual conference.


Last week, Vice-President Joseph Msika ordered Zanu PF chairman John Nkomo to stop any moves to expel the rebels led by former Home Affairs Minister Dumiso Dabengwa to give dialogue a chance.


But Effort Nkomo, spokesman for the dissidents, said they had resolved that there was no going back on the decision to abandon the 1987 Unity Accord.


“There is no way anyone can stop this process because it is people-driven,” he said. “We are aware that there are some of us who still feel comfortable in Zanu PF and we will not try to convince them to join us.”
He said the group would go ahead with the “historic” convention to chart its future.


The convention, to be held on December 13 and 14, will coincide with the Zanu PF conference in Bindura.
“The dates were deliberately set to coincide with the Zanu PF conference so that we can show them where the people are,” he said.


In an appeal to the Zanu PF rebels to return, Msika said factionalism, tribalism and corruption was driving away people from the ruling party.


He made the remarks after he was presented with findings of a commission of inquiry set up to investigate the Zanu PF officials behind plans to revive PF Zapu.


In a thinly veiled attack on the Zanu PF commissariat led by Elliot Manyika, Msika reportedly said the disgruntlement among ruling party supporters in Matabeleland was justified because of the way they were treated.


He said members of the party from the region were treated as outsiders, yet they were in the forefront of the liberation struggle.


“We are not apologetic about the revolution,” a senior official who attended the meeting quoted him as having said.


“It does not belong to the people in Harare because the revolution started here at Stanley Square.”
He reportedly maintained his stance that PF Zapu was still alive in Zanu PF.

BY KHOLWANI NYATHI

But the MPC is also coming alife, they are no longer afraid to show their pictures, but they should label them so that we know who is who.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_C23-sYjhopM/SPPLT6QTW2I/AAAAAAAAACk/bDBEklcuvrY/s1600-h/MPC+149.JPG

http://mthwakazipeople.blogspot.com/2008/10/mthwakazi-peoples-convention-glasow.html

http://www.zoopy.com/photo/f7k/mthwakazi-people-s-convention-glasow-launch?browse=577

This is one big step forward because okwamanje asiwadingi amaqembu angu 20 athi amele uMthwakazi we only need one party for uMthwakazi so that we can all talk with one voice and fight our enemy, if the MPC and MFP agreed to join ZAPU that is wonderful news to our ears because wedon`t want another liberty part who robbed people of their money and as for the frozen minded of john nkomo and msika and the others who happen tobe also zanu infected we don`t need them they can`t help us with anything and the former once most trusted minister of information who one day refused that the people of Matebeleand were suffering (JONATHAN MOYO) must never comr close to the ZAPU because its never associated with abathengisi abafana laye.The revived ZAPU will only need the new blood with frseh minds of young people Dabengwa can help and the young a way forward and then aphumule.

The very first thing that every Mthwakazi citizen should understand is that we are not, and shall never be at competition with ZAPU. We simply complement each other. It is delighting to MPC that the song we have been singing all along is now shared by all the citizens of Mthwakazi. MPC wants out of Zimbabwe. ZAPU wants out of ZANU. ZPRA wants out of the Zimbabwe War Veterans Association. We are all saying the same thing in different levels. Having said that, the citizens of Mthwakazi must understand that MPC is already a constituted body. Our prime objective is for the Nation of Mthwakazi to be divorced from that of Zimbabwe. MPC is not in anyway advocating for good governance in Zimbabwe, for that is not our problem. We do not even foresee any good governance out of that society. Therefore, we take a few steps from what other Mthwakazi organisations advocate for. We refuse to be drawn into marriages that INCONVENIANCE our citizens. It is not true that MPC leaders have joined ZAPU. We remain as MPC. If we are going to make any coalitions, it has to be coalitions created by the meetings of our members. At the same time let all the Mthwakazi citizens know that we are in constant communication and dialogue with ZAPU as we regard them as coleagues in the struggle. This dialogue started well before they even announced their desire to leave ZANU. As far as the ZPRA War Veterans Association is concerned, any ZPRA war veteran, regardles of their party affiliation, should belong to that association. Our common factor is that we were once soldiers under the banner of ZPRA. ZPRA war veterans should stand apolitical as there are citizens who have a right to affilliation. Should ZPRA say it is accepting ONLY ZAPU members, then we kill the spirit of democracy, the very same thing we are accusing ZANU of. As far as Mthakathi is concerned, He is not a member of MPC. We do not know him, and he does not speak for us. Mthwakazi citizens should know that our Comms Department is headed by Mr. K. Dube. If need be ask people to visit our website to see the leaders of MPC. We shall soon be putting up pictures.

From MPC’s Department of Communications

Mthembo i hope you are fine where you mfowethu lami ngisa ncenga ngase goli,yebo iyazwakala indaba oyitshoyo baba thina singuMthwakazi sifuna ukwazi kabanzi nge MPC yikho nje lokhu sihlala sicabengela into ezinengi ngoba akekho oke waziveza egcekeni ukuthi mina yimi usibanibani omele isikhundla esithile kuMPC njalo kuyabongeka ukuthi uziveze kumahlabezulu into nje bhudi awusafakanga leyo website yeqembu ukhuthi sithole ulwazi lemibuzo miningi nje kunjalo.
i hope you know ukuthi isizwe sakithi is not a combined nation we have a few people who are not ndebele but asibabandlululi bangu Mthwakazi labo so mina ngithi there is no reason to have more than one parties that will devide the one small nation and we will never have a chance to win an war against amatshona we have to stand up and talk with one voice from one party and don`t you think we can be very strong if kwenzeka something like that.thina njenge sizwe we dont to be in a situation where by we will have to choose who to follow and that will make you guys to start promising lies to the people which we don`t need at this time.Nani lingu MPC taken too much time ukuthi liziveze ebantwini ihope this time we will see you guys starting to appear to the people and tell us all about you and your intentions sesisokole kwenele lathi imoya yeyhu isikhatshana kakhulu sifuna ukuwabona lama campaign wenu gents liziveze bakwethu sizolamukela ngezifudumalayo izandla ngiyabonga.

Kirth Dube

Mfoka Mthembo siyabonga ngempendulo yakho enhle kangaka. Qhubekela phambili ngomsebenzi wakho omuhle, ngakuzwa kuSWRADIO uyindoda ngempela.
Kukuwe lakuMPC ukuthi lingithatha njani, loma lingithatha njesitha loma njengomngane isizwalane sakoMthwakazi loma cha.
Useselapho bengicela uthathe njalo ithuba lakho uphendule lombuzo:
http://www.inkundla.net/ubbthreads7olde/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=41167#Post41167

Kulabo abafuna ukwazi ngeMPC kumbe ukubala izindaba ezikhutshwa yiMPC department of communications ngicela lethekele iweb address ethi http://www.mthwakazitoday.com.
Ngezinyanga ezilandelayo sizaqhubeka ngokwengezelela amawebsites enhlanganiso yethu okuzenelisa uwonke wonke kaMthwakazi ukuze ahlale ewell-informed ngenhlanganiso yethu.
Ngimema wonke uMthwakazi ukuthi aze azokwakha lenhlanganiso.iMPC kasonto yomuntu njalo akekho ongathi uyinkunzimalanga yayo, iMPC ngeyesizwe sakithi, ngeyakho Mthwakazi njalo uvumelekile ukuza sizokwakha sonke.

Yikho ngithi;
SONKE KANYE KANYE VUUUU! UMLILO WENKULULEKO....LETS KEEP THE FREEDOM FIRE BURNING!

Mthakathi27 will not defend himself or against these accussations from the MPC, but would like to wish the MPC a ll the success in its endeavours.
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Statement from MPC on alleged involvement of MPC with ZAPU PDF Print E-mail
Written by Kirth Dube
Tuesday, 09 December 2008 10:37



STATEMENT FROM MPC ON ALLEGED INVOLVEMENT OF MPC WITH ZAPU
MPC wishes to categorically refute attempts to link MPC with ZAPU or ZAPU revivalists by a contributor to Inkundla forum called “Mthakathi27”. MPC also rejects as mischievous lies the allegation that MPC or any of its members or supporters have joined or are in any way affiliated to the revival of ZAPU.

MPC is an independence movement dedicated to the full and total independence of Mthwakazi, its land and its peoples. To that extent its vision is completely different from that of ZAPU, which, if what we know of it is correct, wants to remain part of present-day Zimbabwe.

However, as MPC we welcome the news that the former ZAPU wants to leave Zanu-PF, and we commend those members involved for seeking to do so, if what we hear is true. Nothing is good for that country at the moment than the total isolation of the present leadership of Zimbabwe.

As MPC, we wish to reiterate that anyone who shares the vision and values of MPC and its independence agenda, whether they belong to Zanu-PF, ZAPU, MDC or any other political formation, or whether they are Ndebele, Shona, Khalanga, Venda, Sotho, Xhosa, Tonga, White or any ethnic group, they are welcome in MPC.

MPC is not just about deconstructing the political architecture and political legacy of Zanu-PF. MPC is about a vision. That vision is about a reinvented UMR and a re-constituted Zimbabwe. Therefore, MPC is about UMR as much as it is about Zimbabwe. The partition of present-day Zimbabwe, which MPC seeks, presupposes functional separating parts. That is the future.

That vision is about a re-ordered political arrangement suitable and acceptable to the people of Mthwakazi and Zimbabwe, not a force-fed farcical unity that has never existed. That is no mean task.

That vision calls upon all of our people to vacate fossilized comfort zones. It calls upon our peoples to embrace innovation, innovation which will sometimes be painful and wrought with uncertainties, risks and opportunities. It requires true leadership to bring people along. As MPC we have set ourselves to building and providing leadership founded on trust. We can be trusted to lead, and to lead to the future. MPC is a movement of the future.

Our solutions are futuristic and innovative. They confront and dismantle the skewed but near entrenched political foundations and assumptions of our time. MPC has never been afraid to break new ground and walk uncharted territory. For now, we have no peers in that defining zone.

For MPC nothing is cast in stone. A state is a theoretical construct expressed as a geographical existence. The post-Cold War political map of Europe is a far cry from the pre-1989 Europe. The peoples of our continent have long cried for emancipating leadership. Our people, uMthwakazi, are just one people in a swathe of political misery blighting the peoples of our continent. Ours is therefore not a unique political circumstance. Therefore it is not lost to us that we stand on the edge of a historical and defining moment. As far as we know now ZAPU has not arrived here where we are and continue to be on our own.

We leave it to time for ZAPU or any other political party to demonstrate that they share this defining vision for our country with us. We can only express hope that ZAPU is not hankering to a long-gone past to which no one will ever return and wants to return. The world has moved on. So must we as a people.

A ZAPU, or any other party which is genuinely extricating itself from the policies and actions of Zanu-PF, represents a small step in the right direction. MPC will work with any party or group, including a democratized Zanu-PF, which seeks nothing but the total liberation and freedom of all our peoples. But we will not be cajoled or wished into political positions we don’t know. However, we remain open to anyone wishing to talk to us.

MPC is not about stunts or political grandstanding. We are serious. We are not about change but innovation. On this minimum, there is basis for political engagement with anyone.
Finally, MPC is a political movement which operates in the public domain. To that extent it cannot but have a very public leadership. In addition, MPC is an organization to which all individuals in it are subordinate. When the time has come for the MPC President to talk in public s/he will do so. For now, we think this obsession with individuals in MPC is misplaced when there is a job of work to be done to liberate uMthwakazi.


From MPC’s Department of Communications

This party and its vision is good. This is not everyday thinking. This is not ordinary man s brains. If it would make a difference I would join again and again. Re-inventing UMR, and in so doing re-constituting Mthwakazi and Zimbabwe.

Ah ! Mthakathi mngane wami, kanti wena ubuyithethephi lindaba engaka iDube selizelikhahlela kanje?
Sengiyaphumputhe le citation yakho angiyifumani.

Mina besengithabile ngisithi njengoba uZapu ekugrassroots ,uMPC usezohlomulela lapho akhona ngama resourses lokunye okuthile ukuze sisindise izizalwane zikaMthwakazi eziswela uncedo lwesiphangephange. I knee-jerk reaction kaMPC iletha ukufiphala kukanti besengibone isibane sabantu bakithi abantulayo.

Kuzwakele Baba Dube; sesizolinda.Kunini sijikelana ngenyoka ephilayo emnyameni la eNkundleni nge leadership yeMPC. Sibonga u Mthakathi osilethele amahu la owomtshado le Zapu ukuze ukhiphe i statement sakho esiqukethe inkulumo ebanzi.

Bafowethu.

Silibonge njalo ngokusikhuthaza.

Besengiphana ngiqhubeka ngithi, asihlanganiseni amakhanda zihlobo. Ku MPC silandela yonaleyo Constitution eyatatshwa kudatshulwa yona i MPC. Our charachter is that MPC is open to individuals and organisations. At the same time we have a laid down program. Asifuni kudanisa abantu ngokubalinga sibathembise izulu lomhlaba thina sisitsha sonkeni lapha emhlabeni. Siyananzelela ukuthi bakhona abantu bakithi abalemibono emihle kakhulu. Okusidanisayo yikuthi LIYABUZA KUPHELA nge MPC.

Mthakathi, without any prejudice, WOZA ku MPC. You will be surprised how much work awaits you in MPC. IBELE LIHLAKULELWA LISESE LINCANE. Yikho esisakwenza okwamanje.

The path taken by MPC is not an easy one. To many people it is too new and unothodox. Many people look at it as an impossible one.

To us it is the lasting solution. I say to us ngoba abanye may not share the same views with MPC. But MPC has studied history. MPC has made good analysis of the trends. MPC has taken a position. Rightfully and RIGHTFULY SO, we have no business in Zimbabwe.

That is where most people miss our point.

We will discuss with Zimbabwe, ONLY IN AS FAR AS HOW WE SHOULD SEPERATE. We are not able to participate in Zimbabwean politics. Zimbabwe rejected us in 1979 before Rhodesia died.

How can you continue wanting to be what you are being continuously told you are not? Njalo utshelwa yibo abanikazi?

Visit us at http://www.mthwakazitoday.com

OKUBUHLUNGU nje yikuthukwa ungelacala.
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QUOTE from Mpume:>>>we can never compare the MPC(Mthwakazi Pathetic Cowards) and the about-to-be-revived ZAPU!!we cannot even compare it to zapu2000, liberty party or super ZAPU!!
it has proved beyond doubt that it operates in a univese which has been engulfed by a massive blackhole of ultra secrecy and daydreaming, though they do not know it.
those of us still on earth, can easily tell that the mpc is spiraling into oblivion at the speed of darkness
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those who don't use their freedom to fight for their freedom will lose their freedom!! <<< END QUOTE
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IS THIS NOT THE SAME PERSON OSUKELA U CONT MHLANGA?????

Li Zwangendaba.

Zapuonline

Mfo kaDube nami ngithi angizibongele ngombono wakho , benginokungabaza mangibheka amaqembu eseqambuka all over ethi amela ezikalobengula . Bekungabajabulisa kwelase mashoneni ukubona ezengabadi zehluleka ukuziqoqa . Yikho ngoba sekungani kukhona ukuzwana phakathi kwamaqembhu yila esifuna khona , Guys get all structures in place we will support you . Akahambe ayofa ubob yisilahlangoboya into eyabulala abantu kusukela ngo 1980 thru accidents drownings assasination gukurahundi we will prevail as for the soldiers the poverty will get into the barracks soon and you will realising you will that you have been the power behind the devil. Yemfo ngithola sengazathi uphuma ekezi well if that is the case nami ngokunjalo ngiphuma khona eduza nezitholo sikamangabu elinini yase yengweni kwesikamaphike , Ugogo wami beku Madube ozalwa Kadube emamyani .

Basing my conclusions on what i saw from ZAPU's website it is clear to me that ZAPU is a dead donkey, it has not learned a thing, it still regards itself as a 'national' party. I have no time to waste on parties like ZAPU, no in a thousand of years. I am deeply dissappointed, i thought that they would come out with a more radical philosophy or ideology.

mfowethu uqinisile after the collapse of the original ZAPU they will never be another original kuzolandela amafong kong kuphela abazabe befuna ukudla ngegama leZAPU, these people they can`t stand up against mgabe bazwakale the way engibona ngakhona bazo bhuqa abantu mhlawumbe bezifunela ipopularity nemali ebantwini bezihluphekela if they really want to make this happen they shouldn`t associate themselves with amatshona islogan sakhona sibhalwe langesitshona bafuna nje ukubuyisela abantu emva nami nje angiziboni ngizibiza ngayo leZAPU thina sifuna ukuyaphambili sihlukane nalezi zinja zamatshona.

December 14, 2008

BULAWAYO - Former Zanu-PF politburo member Dumiso Dabengwa, elected leader
of revived PF Zapu on Sunday, has described President Robert Mugabe as an
unrepentant leader who believes in violence to maintain his hold on power.

Dabengwa, who left Zanu-PF before the March elections, was elected as
president of PF Zapu after leading a breakaway from Zanu-PF. Dr Canswell
Nziramasanga of Mashonaland West was elected vice-president.

Dabengwa said Mugabe ignored advice from other Zanu-PF members to cease
violence. Mugabe argued that Zanu-PF's continued hold on power could only be
fully secured through coercion, he said

"When I was in government and in Zanu-PF, I used to tell Mugabe not to
victimize and use violence against the MDC but he did not listen," said
Dabengwa at a press conference soon after his election.

"He refused to stop using violence against the MDC saying that the power
base of Zanu-PF was threatened. He was unrepentant and believes violence is
the solution."

Disgruntled Zanu-PF senior officials, mainly from the southern region - led
by Dabengwa - officially broke away from the ruling party and revived PF
Zapu at a two-day convention held at MacDonald Hall in Mzilikazi suburb.

The move effectively ended a political marriage between Mugabe's Zanu-PF and
PF Zapu sealed through a unity accord in 1987.

PF Zapu was forced to sign the accord following a crackdown on its main
support base in Matabeleland. The operation, codenamed Gukurahundi, resulted
in the death of about 20 000 civilians, according to the Catholic Commission
of Peace and Justice (CCJP).

Dabengwa also urged the MDC to pull out of the power-sharing talks and push
for a new constitution before fresh polls to solve the political impasse are
held.

"The MDC should pull of the power-sharing talks as they have failed to
produce the desire result and failed to solve the political crisis," said
Dabengwa, a former minister of home affairs.

"It is clear that Mugabe does not want to share power with Tsvangirai. The
MDC should announce the talks are dead and pull out.

"Fresh elections are the only way out of the political crisis. However, the
MDC should refuse to participate in such polls if there is no new
constitution. An election under the current constitution will produce a
defective result as it allows Mugabe to bend the rules.

"The MDC should start pushing for a new constitution now to avoid a repeat
of the current crisis, where a defective constitution in June produced a
sham result."

On Thursday, Mugabe's government threatened fresh polls if the MDC did not
join his government following the signing of a power-sharing deal between
Zanu-PF and the MDC in September.

The implementation of deal has stalled after Mugabe refused to cede some key
ministries and posts to the MDC.