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#422 - 05/31/04 12:59 AM
Lithini ngabodade abasa landela iBeijing Conference
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Ngqwele
Registered: 10/25/03
Posts: 150
Loc: uk
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Mthwakazi omuhle! Inkundal yethu ngeyokwelulana lokubonisana.Mina bengathanda kesixoxeni ngodaba oselikhathazile lapha Engilandi.Njengoba sonke sisazi ukuthi esintwini akucala njalo akuzili ukuthi ababa abe lemizi emibili kumbe emithathu, kambe kusavumeleka na kulezinsuku ze Equal Rights zabasifazane? Ncedani bo zihlobo.Ngizaphendula ke mina umbono wami nje ngo wesifazane!
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#423 - 05/30/04 03:21 PM
Re: Lithini ngabodade abasa landela iBeijing Conference
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 05/21/04
Posts: 80
Loc: Mthwakazi
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Nomandebele lawe mthwakazi omuhle,
Lelisiko lalingelokwakha isizwe. Kwakungeke kuphileke endulo obana lalingekho. Izimpi zaziphuma amanye amajaha asale khonale. Omama abaseleyo babefuna ukugcinwa, njalo isizwe sale sikhula yikho ubaba loba elomuzi kwakumele enze okufaneleyo ngalo umuzi ongasela baba (ukungena). Empini le babethunjwa omama labantwana kwakumele bondliwe phakathi komuzi bazi imikhuba lamasiko esizwe. Ngumthwalo ongalula ukuthi umama alaye umfana ngalokho okumele abeyikho njengendoda kusasa.
Laphakathi kwesizwe kwakuphilwa ngenduku, uma ubaba eligwala lomuzi wawuphila kanzima, phela bayamhluthunela abanye akujimbileyo. Wona mangaki amajaha eyengafuna abafelokazi intombi zikhona. Angingezake ngitsho ukuthi izifebe zazingekho komthwakazi kodwa lenganekwane zakhona azikhulumi ngazo. Lonke inina kwakumele libe ngaphansi komuzi othile, nxa engugogo uyabe esemntwaneni wakhe, wayengeke enze ihlazo elinjalo.
Nxa ngibheka umthwakazi lamhla, ngibona sengathi ufuna ukwakhiwa kutsha, isithembo kwakungasi ndaba yemacansini, kodwa eyokwakha isizwe lenhlalakahle, yikho ezinye intombi zazikhutshwa kuthiwe yana kobani, njalo usisi wayahambe ayethatha umnawakhe kumbe umzawakhe bazokwendela ndawonye. Azalwe amajaha lezintombi ukhule umuzi unhlonipheke, hatshi bathi okungumzwana kwako zibani.
Equal rights, yebo amathuba lenhlakahle, akusakhethelekile ukuthi yindoda kumbe ngumfazi uyawathola azigcine umama labantwabakhe, kodwa ukungabikhona kukababa lapha ekhaya kulenkinga ezithile, and the western world is full of them.
1. Abuse of male children by their mothers leading to psychopathic tendencies nxa sebekhulile. 2. Abuse of step daughters by mothers' lover or whatever and/or step brothers. 3. The general lack of discipline and role model for the boy child, some have lived only with their mothers to an exstent they want to be woman and not man. 4. High divorce rate and generally a very permissive life style (abole umthwakazi).
Lawa ngamanye ama examples amalutshwane, uyabona ukuthi everything we have imported from the west has come with its ills that we are normally found ill prepared for. Their food brought certain diseases which we had neither expertise nor money for the medication. We have no social budget to cater for abused children coming from these failed social live inns.
Imikhuba yekadeni had rights and previleges for mothers in these set ups, even ilifa lalisaziwa ukuthi liqondana labobani, obaba were encouraged to segregate certain things during their lifetime to minimize any misunderstandings regarding ilifa and other things ngaphandle were there is early death in the family izinto zingakalungi. But ubaba was not allowed to get more wives than he can possible manage. Mothers were also educated to know how to provide inheritence for their children, by having insimu, inkomo zosengelo, isiphala etc.
It is interesting to note that the western world has it in black and white, that one man one wife, but ubufebe bakhona is an unwritten code (Prince Charles, Bill Clinton, umfazi kalankosi). Bodade kengibuze, which is bether, to know ukuthi ubaba is faithful to the three of us or that he is faithful to noone?
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#424 - 06/03/04 07:26 PM
Re: Lithini ngabodade abasa landela iBeijing Conference
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Ngqwele
Registered: 03/27/04
Posts: 167
Loc: Joburg, SA
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Ye, hayi, ngiyalizwa. I sometimes wish this were like kudala when man were man and women were proud of them. but that just iphupho nje which will never be realised.
Asami isicelo sisemajideni akithi. zitshomi, mina i'm proud of odadewethu, their respectful, loving and submisive. they know indawo zabo in the family and understand their husband's role emulini, so lets preserve that. Engikutshoyo yikuthi lets not take them for granted, we're not leaving in a vacuum. we do not want them ukuthi bacine sebelandela laba abesitshabi besithi bayancindezelwa kwatsha kwacitsha. khathesi inengi lethu selifundile, and we should act like abantu abafundileyo. kasihlonipheni osisi bethu for what they are, bayasihlonipha lokusisebenzela, we should do the same.
you can still show ubundebele bakho without abusing umfazi labantwana. lets make abafazi bethu proud of being married to umuntu wakibo so that they tell abanawabo ukuthi bayendele kithi. lets not be our own enemies.
things i'm totally against are physical abuse, verbal abuse and emotional abuse. akusela ndawo lokhu esizweni esitsha, it only leads to the further collapse of the nation intombi zakithi ezinhle sezisiyasetshenziswa ngabatshabi.
lani bosisi akelekeleni ukuyengwa ngabantu besitshabi ngamarights into ezingekhoyo. if u want to go into business we support you, kawuncindezelwa hayi, kodwa nxa usubuyile endlini usunguNaMankazana phela.
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