Izazi zempumalanga sezisinike lokhu. Bathi bona kukhethwe kanje:

MDC: 49 seats
ZPF: 71 seats
Jona: 1 seat

Kodwa lokhu akukakhulunywa laku TV yase Zimbabwe. Silokhu silindele ukuthi bamemezele. Please treat these figures with caution. Ngisake ngigijime!!

Many of us with a healthy memory will remember Maneru's CV and some remarks he himself made about AIPPA.

quote:

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in his CV Moyo says that he spearheaded the draconian law (AIPPA) which he claims to be a “landmark piece of legislation ... sought after by jurisdictions in Africa ...”

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Bhudaza,

Perhaps some people like Lobengula work on their own and have no knowledge of structure and heirarchy, as well as deligation of duties and the supervision.

Potshoza lawe Bhudaza

Kanti uGeorge Charamba limesabani ngoba nangu khonalapha eNkundleni ethi nguye lamanye Amatshona ababhala iAIPPA? Fundani i post kaSamdala lapho indwangu le enguChalamba ethi yiyo mathupha eyabhala i AIPPA.

hk hk hk hk WOza lazo Ntombankala!

What about ZANU Ndonga's traditional 1 seat victory? Ngeke kulunge madoda, kukhona isikhekhelembane la! Kwenzeke kanjani ukuthi kunqotshwe okhukhuva bakaNdabaningi?

ZANU Ndonga has to win back their 1 seat - noma yikanjani!

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa
Ngiphum’ ezansi Ongoye
Umful’ engiwuphuzayo – ngiphuz’ uThukela – umful’ osh’ izikhawu!
Ngiyinkwali yenkosi
uMashukumbela
uVeyane
umcondo yegusha

Inxangiphilile
KwelikaMthaniya

hk hk hk hk Ntombankala uthwelufu ushayile ifools day iphelile nqondisa indaba yakho manje???????? Usugijime wafika ngaphi?

Hlabezulu ngabe lani liphethwe ngumhedehede njengami?

JONA UYINDODA NDO
indebele phaqa
im proud of wena

Wozani bantwana beSindebeleni ngobunengi benu lama bunches of flowers lizomqeqetsha ubaba uMoyo. He has shown you ukuthi amadoda akoMthwakazi alawo ngempela ama sendlisi aqinileyo hatshi abuthakathaka.

Simfisela inhlanhla umfowethu. Siyamthandazela ukuthi anqobe ubaba uMoyo. Liqhawe langempela.

Thina amajaha eTsholotsho sithi: UYEZUMOYA!!!!.

Gibela phezukwendlu, ubatshele, uMoyo senga daar!!! Sangena sangena!!!!.

After the likes of Sinatha have called me all the names under the sun for saying positive things about Moyo and also having berated the likes of Lobs, Mto etc. for being open-minded and daring to think outside the box, the gallant people of Tsholotsho have vindicated us all. Politics in Zimbabwe is about to get very exciting. BRACE YPORSELVES. The hansard will now make some compelling reading!!!!!!!

Thandindaba

Heita mfowethu. Heita mthaka. Heita daar!

I could not resist the urge to say: greetings bra! Eish, we had good clean debates last year man. I pay tribute to your open mind and say: keep it up man!

You know, izolo I was just familiarising myself ngemibhalo ebekhona whilst I was away. I tell you, I cackled loud and my ribs are still sore when I read one of your postings. It was the one when you were lashing out at Ezra Tshisa's childish laughter whilst interviewing Paul Siwela. I found the line where you referred to Ezra 's 'below par postings' in this forum very hilarious indeed. You know, nami uqobo I used to see the shoddy performance yakhe la esigungwini and wonder: what's it with Tshisa Sibanda? I even suspected it wasn't him but the workings of an unscrupulous simpleton impostor bent on tarnishing Tshisa's name. But ke mfowethu sothini? If indoda ihluleka sobuka siyeke nathi. So much for journalism standards going down the drain.

God bless you man. Keep it up. Keep them coming brotherman.

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa
Ngiphum’ ezansi Ongoye
Umful’ engiwuphuzayo – ngiphuz’ uThukela – umful’ osh’ izikhawu!
Ngiyinkwali yenkosi
uMashukumbela
uVeyane
umcondo yegusha

Inxangiphilile
KwelikaMthaniya

The issue about Mbacu has never been that he is going to loose Tsholotsho Thandindaba. The issue about Mbacu has been the oppressive laws he used to defend ZPF and ZPF today emerged stronger with the help of this evil man when he was in that party!

The issue now is where does Mbacu take the people of Tsholotsho? Back to ZPF as Ntombankala says or remain as an independent as he himself is alleged to have said he is not going back to ZPF!

A challenge to Mbacu in terms of his cosmetic delivery still remains. If he sustains it without the backing of Mnangagwa and ZPF, then I might reconsider my stance on Mbacu!

It is now Whither Mbacu after this!

Mahewu,

Do you have any evidence to support the fact that Professor Moyo is financially supported by Mnangagwa?Can you bring that foward please for all our sake or as usual you are again day-dreaming.
In one of his latest interviews Moyo has categorically stated that he will not rejoin Zanu Pf.Maybe as usally you have missed that too.Is it really necessary on your part to go all the way to pre-judge an election outcome in Tsholotsho b4 the results have been announced?Is important to you if he Moyo continues his good performance in Tsholotsho since you have failed to acknowledge it all along.

Mtongenakudla,
Thanx mfo I hope to read more of your informed discourses. Remember when we were at loggerheads and crossing swords. I could not move away from my computer for ages waiting for your responses to my attacks and you never disappointed. Amidst all the acid attacks I was thouroughly enjoying myself. That is what Inkundla stands for. A melting pot of ideas. And you happen to have good ones. So lets hope this year again sparks will fly!!
So Long my dear Brother. Keep the ball rolling. (I have not forgiven you for your use of ISIZULU though!!!!!!!!!)

Mtshede,

Do you remember this:
I got smacked by a black boy.

It might have been Sthutha.

(he's the kind to do it|....)

Anyway all you chaps good luck.

And worse luck.

This is Mtshede leaving all you black chaps - Ndebele and Shona - to fight yourselves
Typical of White louts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lapha bengilincweba indlebe. Ngitshilo ukuthi lokhu ngikuphiwe ngabasiki bebunda. Kodwa ku TV lakuzo zonke ezomoya abakaku khulumi lokhu. Khona manje emoyeni iZPF isile 31 kuthi iMDC ibe le 38 seats. Isikhathi smi ngu 17.12. Lokhu engikubeke ngaphezulu ngikuchathekelwe ngama 10:00a.m. IZPF ibuye sasivunguzane and wiped off the 26 deficit "in style". These are no surprises for some of us. Okuka Moyo lakho akuka khulunywa emoyeni - kuphuma kuzazi. Lingixolele nxa kungaguquka kusasa.

Mntongenakudla - you are an amazing colourful writer. I rank you among the Goethes of this world labo Xukuthwayo.Keep it up mfowethu.

Lapha bengilincweba indlebe. Ngitshilo ukuthi lokhu ngikuphiwe ngabasiki bebunda. Kodwa ku TV lakuzo zonke ezomoya abakaku khulumi lokhu. Khona manje emoyeni iZPF isile 31 kuthi iMDC ibe le 38 seats. Isikhathi smi ngu 17.12. Lokhu engikubeke ngaphezulu ngikuchathekelwe ngama 10:00a.m. IZPF ibuye sasivunguzane and wiped off the 26 deficit "in style". These are no surprises for some of us. Okuka Moyo lakho akuka khulunywa emoyeni - kuphuma kuzazi. Lingixolele nxa kungaguquka kusasa.

Mntongenakudla - you are an amazing colourful writer. I rank you among the Goethes of this world labo Xukuthwayo.Keep it up mfowethu.

Ungasidlali u April fools day phela Ntombankala !

Siphepheli As excuses come leyo eyakho ingibulalisa imbambo Uthi ubujahile waphendulela uSamdala waba Mamdala. How imaginative hk hk hk hk hk hk hk !!!!!!!!

Mtshede,
As long as you do not explain why you resorted to this racist approah which I must admit is out of character as far as I know you from your previous posts I am happy labelling you a white lout.

Thandindaba mandisi,

Woza lazo ke baba, mtolikele ubaba usamdala. Phehla izaguru wena mxegi omkhulu.

Sthutha
I understand izakhamuzi zeTsholotsho uzivuse emathathakusa, ukhala njengeQhude uzibiza emkhosini kaMbacu. Kuhle mfowethu licelebrathe!

Lalela on the predictions that have been made ngoMbacu have not come to fruition except maybe winning Tsholotsho kuphela!

You chaps predicted that Mbacu will be the next president of Zimbabwe when he was in ZPF! Has that happened?

You chaps vigorously predicted that Mbacu was working to destroy ZPF! Has ZPF been destroyed today? How can someone destroy ZPF by winning one seat in Zimbabwe?

It was also predicted lapha ngezazi zempumalanga that Mbacu, was making way for John Landa to become the next president of Zimbabwe despite evidence pointing to the fact that the two never saw eye to eye with each other!

I guess wena S'thutha you are celebrating that Mbacu has finally completed his mission of destroying ZPF!

Celebrate S'thutha baba!

And whatever this Mbacu is saying about ZPF is indeed sour grapes! This guy is ZPF through and through!

I said after taking Tsholotsho, we say Whither Mbacu? Some tell is that he is already convassing for support from the ZPF Karangas for the 2008 presidential elections! I guess he is taking Tsholotsho with him to those elections under ZPF if his 'sycophants' here are telling the truth about this. If this is not true then it means Mbacu's 'sycophants' are serial liars and we are being lied to about him. If it is true, it only serves to show us that this chap can not be trusted! Uguluva wePoltics nje!

Kesime and observe how things turn out S'thutha seZhuwani!

SINGQOBILE WITH ONE STRIKER WHAT IF WE HAD THE WHOLE TEAM?


Moyo has finally docked the Boat in Victory,
kodwa isangoma esasingifisela ukuba ngiphume kulinkundla silokhu zixabana labanye abantu ngokulahla umlomo waso.

Sibalukhulu democracy is democracy even losers should congratulate their enemies.
As for Mugabe's win, History has repeated itself again, kumgceke lamuhla ukuba kasiwo wonke amashona okumele silwe lawo kungelasizatho.

A lot of shonas stood with our Ndebele Candidates kuMDC while a lot of Ndebele Voters stood with Zanu PF in Tsholotsho and other places.

VIVA JONATHAN MOYO VIVA!

Is Tsholotsho the only place where the election will be legitimised?

Viva Jonathan Viva. Useyithethe. Its now confirmed officially what we all knew this morning. We hope that they dont eliminate him. Yaze yamnandi indaba. Siyeza Mgobovich.

Viva Jonathan Viva. Useyithethe. Its now confirmed officially what we all knew this morning. We hope that they dont eliminate him. Yaze yamnandi indaba. Siyeza Mgobovich.

The victory by Jona to me brings to light what might be hidden to some people.What has happenned today is something the ZPF shonas had wanted for long & had failed to do to the people of Matabeleland in terms DEVIDING a united voting pattern the people of Matabeleland used to do all times in days of trouble.The people of Tsholotsho have let down Matabeleland by being the only Mthwakazi constituency to go against their fellow Mthwakazi united voting pattern.Zanu has finally achieved to break the Ndebeles using Jona as an Independant.
Mthwakazi is now devided and dis united as Mujulu had said coz if people of Tsholotsho are not with the rest of Mthwakazi in a united fight or voting pattern they become an opposition to the Matabeleland cause.

This is what ZANU has been longing to see Matabeleland do, voting against each other,their GRAND PLAN is really working.I cry the beloved Matabeleland ,ZANU has cracked Tsholotsho through Jona and thus made Mthwakazi turn against each other.Soon talk will be going around that people from Tsholotsho ngabathengisi which would be a sad development.Kambe isizwe saze sahlukaniswa ngama Tower light,cell phone,pavement lama stadium,kanti lezo zinto zingabamnandi kanjani ungakhululekanga ezweni lakho kumbe uhlukuluzwa njalo useyiswa kwenu???
VIVA-VIVA Jona singasho abanye but subconsciously you dont realise that you are celebrating the beginning of a Mthwakazi devision!FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

Ukunqoba KukaJonathan Moyo

Zinhle Indaba ezinhle!
Halala! Halala! Halala!
Kwangena uMoyo ePhalamende!
Kwasinama osomhawuse!

Ilanga eliphume linsizwa;
Lathi liphezulu lansasa!
Kwaklasa imisebe, kwakhanya!
Kwavungama uZulu!

UJonathan ababethi ngumabonw'abulawe;
Usenguvela bahleke, uzwelonke, undabamlonyeni!
Ngusehlulizitha lo!
Kalamlingani!

(Acknowledgement: Izibongo zamaKhosi)

Maqhamehlezi,

Why the focus on Professor Moyo and the people of Tsholotsho?Imguza,Bulilima,Gwanda,Beitbridge and many other areas in Matabeleland voted for Zanu Pf.Which is this united pattern of voting you are talking about?Guys ,can we be serious about some of our reasoning and stop this silly attempt to unnecessarily denigrate Professor Moyo.

After all what would have the people of Tsholotsho's vote changed?There are only about 20 seats in Matabelelalnd mind you.Madoda tshiyani abantu beTsholotsho benze abakufunayo.Whether you guys say they are sell-outs or not do you think they will ever listen to that,do ypu think they care?

PROFESSOR MOYO IS TODAY 1/04/2005 A DULY ELECTED MP FOR TSHOLOTSHO AND YOU NEED TO RESPECT THAT.

Bakithi abantu are allowed to celebrate and there is no problem with that. Kodwa ke when the euphoria, hysteria and the hoity-toity celebrations settle down, we should question ourselves whether all the objectives about destroying ZPF, we were made to believe were Moyo's, have been achieved?

If we are satisfied that he has achieved them, then let the celebrations continue until dawn.

If this is not the case then we indeed need to seriously reflect on our fictitious stories and falsehoods we peddled about this guy to make a 'cloud that did not bear water' as we expected.

The people of Tsholotsho have vindicated all the tireless contributors who backed Dr Moyo through thick and thin. The people of Tsholotsho have kicked Mugabe straight in his tobacco stained teeth and landed fatal body blows on his mbeva-saturated belly.

Today the people of Tsholotsho have demonstrated to the whole world why they have become international news icons. A humble people that are steeped in abject poverty but rich in political and ideological knowhow. They have shown the world in general what political maturity is all about. They could not vote for Zanu-Puff, neither could they counternance voting for a Tvsangirayi and his wrinkled face.

Now it is time izazi zalapha eNkundleni change gear and focus on regions like Gwanda, Beitbridge etc that voted for Mugabe. Kindly desist from wasting bagfuls of hot air on Dr Moyo. Now, Moyo must just link the Plumtree border post with Tsholostho so that tourists travelling to Victoria Falls can cut their journey by a third if they travel via Tsholotsho. That will provide booming business to Tsholotsho business in general and Plumtree in particular.

The next challenge is to mordenise Tsholotsho and start developing it as a town in its own right. With a charismatic leader like Moyo at the helm Tsholotsho can achieve that within a short space of time. Majaha labodade be Tsholotsho, Mbacu, Sthutha, Ntombankala, Lobengula, Mabila, Sgero,Kwazi mina, Mntongenakudla labanye abangane beTsholotsho abafana laboTsunami, Samdala etc etc the time has come for us to now move a gear up and start making progressive suggestions that Dr Moyo could use to model tsholotsho in such a way that it can serve as a springboard for the rest of Matland.

Maqhamehlezi

You do not seem to realise that even in the 2000 elections (or you prefer erections) Beitbridge and Gwanda voted for Zanu-Puff!!!!.

Tsholotsho just happens to be the most liberated part of Mthwakazi.It has nothing to do with either MDC nor its surrogate mother ZANU-Puff. You must remember that these two organisations are led by two Shonas. To us as Tsholotsho residents Tsvangirayi is indefferent to Mugabe. They both sound like Gukurahundi when they speak.

I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Dr Moyo for a job well done!!, my congratulations are on condition that he does not cross-floor back to Zanu.

People of Tsholotsho have clearly shown us that if we raise our heads and do something that our people will support us. They have shown that any one who is against Mugabe is worth some kind of support. People of Tsholotsho are not by any stretch of imagination sell-outs, these are the people who faced the most brutal onslaught by gukurahundi, these are the people whom Mugabe threatened of "isolation and oblivion" if they voted against his party, these are the people who today stood against all threats and delivered a victory for Moyo. These are brave people, please don't get me wrong, i am not suggesting that the rest of Mthwakazi are sell-outs, i believe that Mugabe if he did not cheat he was not going to win a single seat nor get a single vote. My heart bleeds if Mugabe continues to hold my people at ransom.

Mugabe promised that he was going to employ all Zanu pf machinery anfd tricks against Moyo in these elections. I am tempted to believe that deviding the Mthwakazi constituent is none other than that effort. He was afraid to do it directly in Tsholotsho, may be Moyo knows a lot of things about this man, i think Mugabe wants to portary a devided Mthwakazi in an effort to scare Moyo, in trying to use Tsholotsho as a spring-board.

It is my wish that people will stop vindicating themselves or claiming this and that out of Moyo's victory, this election prooves nothing on our part neither does it disprove of anything on our part. This two pronged approach is necessary and it might at the end have a positive effect on Moyo. Those who have always been against him played or are still playing a pivotal role in shaping him to what is right for Mthwakazi, i believe that when the right time comes, when Moyo comes clear and articulates his aims that he might be surprised to find that his staunchest critics are his staunchiest suppoters, that is only if he aligns himself with the people's aspirations and strategic goals. I don't think that people hate Moyo as a person but his past association (if it is) and the zeal in which he defended the tyrannical governmant pf Mugabe. If he goes back he must be assured that he would be the greatest dissapointment that ever occured in Mthwakazi, he must be prepared for vernom and diatribe aimed at his position. The so called anti-Moyo lobby showed him that he was just human and not a demi-god and that they would not just support anybody just because he is of Mthwakazi extraction, but that a leader must prove himself or herself.

Those who have always been pro-Moyo and professed to understand him also played a pivotal role in shaping his political views, it is of great interest to note that these people even though they supported him even when he was still in Zanu pf that their approach was always pro=Mthwakazi, this might have persuaded him into realising that aligning himself with the people's wishes there lies his political survival. The pro-Moyo lobby might have made him feel accepted and respected, because these people readily acknowledged his leadership skills and his clandestine moves.

These two approaches, i believe were not going to be effective had they been used independent of each other, they needed to reinforce each other. My analysis is only valid if Moyo has got ears to listen and has decided to align himslef with the people.

Bafethu
The point that beitbridge,Tsholotsho etc have voted differently against the majority of Mthwakazi then shows that Zanu has been successfull to devide Ndebeles at last, thats why you now hear yourselves gloating about being a Tsholotshian not a Matlander,you now disassociate Tsholotsho from Mthwakazi which is what Zanu has always wanted to get one of the big constituencies like Tsholotsho pulling away from the oneness Matabeleland had always had, well they started with smallies like Beitbridge but all these other Matabeleland places that suppossedly voted ZPF might have been victims of election FRAUD.Yes celebrate all you like but Tsholotsho has succumbed to Zanu through Jona and thus Matabeleland is going toward the path of disunity if we dont counter it urgently.
Bafethu I am not playng games or doing things for arguements sake here but i am telling it as it is,iZanu is working on ukuthi indawo ngendawo zikaMthwakazi like Nkayi,Tsholotsho,Lupane zibe lobumina zigcine zinganaki ukuba munye beMatabele then sibe ne individuality yokuzishaya isifuba zisithi thina abeNkayi singcono kulabe Nyathi ,abeTsholotsho siblayindi kule Matabeleland yonke etc.so far Zanu has succeded in in deviding us period.

loba nje ngingu Mafikizolo ngilesifiso sokuphosa elami kuMthwakazi omhle.Liphumile latshona simtshayela ihlombe okaMoyo kodwa elakusasa liphuma kuyini akuqukutheleyo ,inhliziyo zethu kazizu kopha yini,NGA BENGISAZI ,NGALANA LAYO IMINYAKA YABA NGAMATSHUMI AMABILI kodwa yiyo lintombi eyangisusa ubujaha ngezake ngibelamahloni ukutholakala nginayo engutsheni yinye. Is this not going to happen to the pple of Mthwakazi sebebuyiselwa eGiphite(Egypte)wafundiswa lomntuangapumelela ukuthwala lemfundiso aye layo ekwakheni iCanan entsha kaMthwakazi .Kwenziwani lapha?angimphiwa kuhle lasemaphutsheni kusani.MANTSHINGELANI WENA OLEMBUMBULUZA ZAMEHLO

Congratulations to the people of Tsholotsho.Now that Jonah is indeed an elected member of parliament, he can represent their interests and initiate development projects. He can now demonstrate that he has the resources to implement development projects.What Jonah did to the people of Tsholotsho has to be the yardstick to measure what our elected representatives ought to achieve. I hope he remains not part of Zanu

Sibamba

As usual, your analysis is cutting edge and spot on. Keep it up baba Nkala.

Ndumelihle

For the first time in this forum, I am happy to read something positive from you on Dr Moyo. I think what the people of Tsholotsho have done is what you guys have been fighting for throughout the 1970s. Now as you rightly say Ndume, what Moyo has done in Tsholotsho must be replicated to other regions as well. That is the only way we can free ourselves from the twin evils of Zimbagwean politics (MDC & Zanu-puff). The situation is even worse with MDC because this party has got no programme for Matebeleland. Matebeleland wants the problem of security and the marginalisation of its people to cease. That is the fundamental problem in Matebeleland.

Maqhamehlezi

Once again you miss the point completely. You are complaining that the people of Tsholotsho voted differently from the rest of Mthwakazi thereby sowing the seeds of disunity within Mthwakazi!!!. Do you real believe in your own words or maybe one must forgive you because you are writing on a Saturday afternoon and therefore you could be inebrieted and/or intoxicated resulting in irrational exuberance bordering on folly on your part?. This is just mere speculation, for you could very well be sober after all.

Are you seriously suggesting that the people of Tsholotsho should reject their own son (Jona) who has do so much for them and choose to act herd-like and vote for two Shonas (Robber Mugabe or one Tsvangirayi)?. Is there any virtue in doing such a stupid thing? Is voting for two Shonas going to unite the people of Matebeleland? Are we going to say because the people of Beitbridge voted for Zanu-Puff there we should also vote for that party?.
If we are serious about politics, rather we should now be saying Dr Moyo should start preparing himself for contesting the presidency, come 2008. That is what we should be doing. Your miserable attempt at condemning the people of Tsholotsho because they defied Mugabe and voted for freedom is unfortunately going to fail dismally. Mthwakazians have been jumping up and down bleating and mooing for ages complaining that we lack leadership with integrity and clout. Now enters Moyo with all the zeal and qualification to lead us but true to form we are still scratching our itchy heads gazing our stomachs steeped in indecision and inertia.
The overzealous among us are already blaming the people of Tsholotsho for defying conventional belief among political scientists that voters in Africa are gullible and susceptible to intimidation and violence. No amount of intimidation could have surpassed Mugabe's live threat to the people of Tsholotsho that they risked being isolated and possibly a visit by the notorious Gukurahundi. But the people said to hell with your threat Mugabe, and they sent his party packing in ignominy and terror, running away from the power of the people. That Mugabe now has to scamper unceremoniously out of Tsholotsho must be a grim reminder to him that the "Tsholotsho incident" or attempted "Tsholotsho Putsch" akin to Hitler's famous German "Beerhall Putsch" was indeed meant to send him live and direct to Khami prison.

The defiance demonstrated by the people of Tsholotsho calls for the re-writing of political science text books which generally contend incorrectly that voters in Africa are susceptible to political victimisation and harassment. Even Mugabe's few computers that he brought could not influence them otherwise. The whole presidency must indeed have been taught a lesson including those who travelled to to Tsholotsho to tell primitive lies like Dabengwa.

Sibambamahawu!

Ngaze ngahawukela mnewethu ukukhalipha kwakho. Siyabonga!

Simenzela amhlophe kakhulu uJona ngokungqoba kwakhe kunye labantu beTsholotysho who have clearly demonstrated their will in the face of all the intimidation by the holder of multiple degrees in violence himself. This of course is in the context of the massive electroral fraud. If we are crying fraud all over, why spare Tsholotsho!
Just a thought!

Sibafisele okuhle ikakhulu; impumelelo kunye le safety abantu bakithi. Mabangahlukuluzwa babulawe ngoba bekhethe abakukhethileyo. The government of the day MUST respect the people's choice!

congratulations to Jona. uyindoda sibili. now the pressure is on Jona to deliver on his election promises. however delivery is not limited to material things. if Jona can make the world aware of the marginalisation of our people, to he would have delivered.

we have seen what mdc can do. its clear that they lack direction, strategy, vision, etc. if Jona wants to be taken seriously in zim politics, he should not limit himself to the tsholotsho seat. he should broaden horizons, starting in matland.

tsholotsho is in the bag, now focus on 2008.

Sibambamahawu - I do not doubt your talent of a top shelf diplomat. One such I have known is the USA's Eagleburger. Keep it up. Siyabonga.

The full acceptance and forgiveness of Moyo by the Ndebeles of all kinds will come when this man apologises for his AIPPA law and the way he treated our people and defended ZPF and Mugabe with zeal. After that he should then move quickly to attack Mugabe and ZPF head-on in parliament for marginalising our people just like our great son Malunga did. If he could do that, some of us can rethink our position on him and as Sibamba has said, be possibly his staunchest supporters. But I doubt this guy will ever do that. His heart is still in ZPF politics and is waiting for Gushungo to go and the possibility is still there he might join ZPF afterwards!

Chairman - When you say, "the full acceptance of J. Moyo...and forgiveness by the Ndebeles...and the way he treated our people...." One wonders about the Ndebeles you are referring to. Jona can not address individual problems. No. We are very much aware that he can not please all people. Its not possible. Which ill - treatment are you talking about? As far as we know, a lot of people of Ndebele extraction were and are supportive of Jona since he denounced Mgobovich despite that they dont come from Tsholotsho. They (Ndebeles) wished him the best for Tsholotsho. There is no Ndebele - Jona problem. This is even expressed in the votes. By denouncing both ZPF and MDC, the people of Tsholotsho spoke or in your words "forgave Moyo" for whatever wrongs he had done. It is retrogressive for you to expect Moyo to make an apology for AIPPA that he is not responsible for. He will not do that.

According to the current constitution of Zim, Mgobovich assents to any legal changes and approves by signature thereby making that a binding law. The standard practise is that he dictates what you should do although in public it will appear as if it was your original idea. He literally controls everything, appointing judges, ministers, chiefs, parastatal heads, commands the armed forces, etc.

The AIPPA that you are still revisiting was a brainchild of Chen Chimutengwende to start with. Mahoso and Charamba perfected it and Jona as minister of information - to whom the two "reported" - had no option but to put it forward for discussion. This piece of legislation was discussed by the Central Committee of ZPF before going for rubber stamping in parliament.

By all standards, if you insist that AIPPA is the major setback in Zim - then we begin to wonder your comprehension of politics. As the Americans say, "its the economy stupid". When did the entity called Zim become tyrannical? When did it start crumbling economically? Dont tell us that AIPPA inspired the Gukurahundi - before it was conceived - to kill people in Matland or that it led to systematic factory closures in Matland from 1980 to the present.

Chairman you can not teach Moyo of all the people about attacking Mugabe. He has done that. If he returns to ZPF of concern to you and me is the manner in which he allocates resources to Matland.

Over the weekend we were discussing how Matlanders are so incapable of strategising politically. The shonas are way ahead of us in this field. We have failed ourselves by failing to strategise. Over 98% of educated Matlanders dont think outside the box when it comes to politics. Sonke siya ku Highlanders - ONE WAY. This is our serious handicap more than anything else. If Jona reverts to ZPF, does that automatically render him a sinner?

Let me give you another example. Of all the politicians from Matland who joined ZPF from ZAPU, Msika continues even at rallies to tell people that he is ZAPU in ZANUPF. He even went to vote in Pelandaba, Byo. What is the significance of that? He is identifying himself with the people and speaks isiNdebele. That is politics. Back to political strategies. Matlanders like you and me have not used Msika's office to prop up development in Matland. We simply ignored him because he is ZPF. Msika would love to be "used". He is there under the ZAPU ticket. Strive Masiyiwa understanding the power dynamics approached Nkomo to get his project started. What happened?

Abantu besi Ndebeleni must learn that our recipe that no one is prepared to try wont sell. We dont even want to try it on mice. Why should we pull each other down? Nxa uMoyo ethanda iZPF kangaka njalo ehlezi phezu kwesaka lemali ku ZPF leyo - akukhulunywe laye lowo Moyo. Nxa uMoyo lowo esazi abantu bakibo eTsholotsho - icala lakhe lingaphi? Ungeke usitshele ukuthi kaxolise kuwe - hayi bo!IZPF knows that it is not liked and will always go down fighting.

Dr Jonathan Moyo's victory is cause for celebration given the fact that he only started campaigning as an independent a few weeks before the election.

The reality is that in a Westminster-style-of-first-past-the-post-winner-takes-all type of voting system, the winner is king. It does not matter whether opponents missed by one vote or one million votes. The fundamental issue is that you secure victory. That is unfortunately where Mugabe is a master. He does not care about urban votes rather chooses to consolidate his coveted votes in Zvimba and other rural areas where he knows victory is guaranteed by hook or crook.

Bakwethu

It doesnt matter wether people who hero worship Jona have found converts who are now ululating,endorsing and congatulating Moyo when before they castigated him like sh*t,Personally I dont go with mob psychology, that because so and so has changed his/her mind about Jona then I must.Some contributors like ubaba uSinatha have reminded us that the issue on Moyo was not about him winning or not in Tsholotsho but about evil dids before being kicked out of ZPF.
Its a pity that Jona came to the people of Tsholotsho in their hour of desperate need and took advantage of that,flashing cash and all,what were they to do when hungry? kodwa uma bebezishayela inala ngeke kade kwenzeka loko!

Matabeleland schools got a lot of computers from Mgabe leading to the elections--yes good people took them they deserve them BUT they never forget what Mga*la is like,just like a lot of people in Matabeleland will never forget Jona's tyranny when in ZPF lucky he covered his ill deeds with a little icing in his Tsholotsho projects.You can be a Ndebele but if you facilitate oppressive laws or dance with the devil ---PHANSI lawe noma uzosivala ngama Tower light lama pavement njengo Bob ebuya lamasaka omumbu lamakhomputara.

About 20 166 people voted, 11 958 didnt vote for him which is the majority of voters.Sizobona ke ukuthi uzokwenzani lomuntu wenu,ngeke anyakaze iBulawayo yethu bazomxotsha like they did ngo 2000 ekuZanu yakhe.Inyoka yinyoka njalo ingwe ngeke ishintshe amabala ayo.Its now the wait and see game.